OT - Politics. Which of these potential leaders would you vote for?

Depends whether you want to get elected or not

 

A Boris promise, is simply a lie that hasn't happened yet

 

Maybe she should make a few racist and homophobic comments ,tell a few lies and get sacked for being a liar ,then people will vote for her

 

Who would you go for TM?

 

She’s a Member of young Labour who they tried to ban from Conference.

 

nah he’s a one nation tory / Blairite given an easy ride

 

There's a joke in there about young labour and nan's but I'm too thick to make it work.

 

she’s a member of young Labour but as a Labour leader treating young people with arrogance and ignoring them isn’t a great look

 

But if it was a country I valued and loved living in, most of the time, then the desire to leave wouldn't be there.

 

Unlike Boris who was just having a laugh.
Boris Johnson wrote that working class men are “likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless".
Erm. Scum. In all but name.
And he's the feckin Prime minister. FFS.

 

Pretty damning for Labour that even on a forum that would undoubtedly vote for them no one likes Keir much.

 

I'm a bit politically homeless now post lockdown. 18 months ago or whatever it was I was hopeful for Starmer - I was keen at the time for him to win the leadership race - and thought he could maybe be the electable front that the party needed (despite having huge respect for Corbyn insofar as he is a true conviction politician, and voting for him at the last GE, I just thought he could never win an election - although at least he had policies that were ideologically pure). However, I mean it's been an absolute and unmitigated disaster. Absolute abject failure to hold Johnson and the wider Tory party to account for anything at all relating to both the pandemic and all the Brexit lies, and of top of that this ridiculous ******** about the "Johnson variant" despite the obvious fact that Delta is pretty much everywhere.

But to be honest I'm having a wider crisis with whether or not for the first time ever I'd not even want to vote Labour at all this time. It's absolutely clear with the actions of Drakeford in Wales that they would have locked down harder, longer and therefore done even more lasting damage to society if that's possible, and this along with their tacit support of the Coronavirus Act legislation, effectively giving Hancock free reign to run a tinpot dictatorship, I don't think I can ever forgive that.

In the actual survey I went for Ed Davey purely because he was the first to actively speak out against vaccine passports, but I can understand why no one else has, I mean - meh.

 

I hope SKS can crack down even harder on Corbyn and his mischief-makers. Their agenda seems to be to keep Johnson and his band of crooks in power even longer.

 

John Smith , he would have made a good prime minister .

 

The shear look of triumph on the face as she turns and talks to camera smacks of of a set up. Yes it’s not a good look because that’s how it meant to look. I blame his people, they should not have allowed such a staged incident to have occurred. Boris’ s people would not have let it happen to him. He’s more than capable of looking an idiot on his own.

 

Interesting poll but if I'm being honest it's slim pickings . It's as if political nepotism has truly taken hold with each subsequent generation becoming more inept than the previous one . Maybe a complete lack of social mobility ( something that has really taken hold over the last 30/40 years ) has left us with these bland uninspiring choices in which to choose from .

 

Sorry Mr Kaht but I think youre wrong to view him so favourably. What has he actually done that looks as though it's he that has any sort of plan to defeat the nasty party? He's done nothing except lie to get himself elected (Johnson would be proud), kick good socialists out of the broad church that is obviously not the Labour Party and chooses now of all times to deflect attention from the Government shi.tshow by focussing on dismantling democracy in the party. The guy is tactically inept and far from running the opposition I don't think he could run a bath. Even his own team are nervous about him... If you think that Starmer is the answer when he looks like by his other vague pronouncements that he is taking Labour onto centre-right ground then all youre doing is backing Labour because you assume they'll be more competent in running capitalism not because they'll actually do anything for the people who really need a progressive Labour Government. The guy is a joke, has no vision apart from vague Fabian platitudes, he's still behind in the polls in spite of him trying to look 'tough' to appeal to floating Tories. It's Starmer causing mischief not the left. As for this 'SKS' business, what's that all about? He's not more cool because he's labelled SKS just as Johnson is not cool by being called Boris. He's Starmer and he's a fool.
And on another note, although difficult to compare, I supect if Corbyn had lied to get elected leader and failed to produce policies you would probably have called him inept and dishonest. Perhaps?
Sorry to post a retort to you as you'll know my views I expect but had to comment on that.
Cheers.
p.s. I shouldn't get involved in political posts.....dont know why I do sometimes.

 

I think it is true that Labour - whoever the leader was - would have locked down sooner and longer. However, it is also absolutely true that the death rate wouldn't have been as disastrous. I can't understand those who believe that because we haven't had a crisis of this sort before, Johnson deserves sympathy. He has been absolutely rubbish - fact.

 

Because it’s completely counterproductive?

Do I think plenty of Tories are scum? Yes
Do I think ‘working class Tories’ are stupid? Yes
Would calling people those things help anyone beyond making me feel a bit better? No!! A million times No.

And yet there’s a huge swathe of the Labour movement who don’t understand this very simple premise.

And worse - the tiny number of centrists in the party who openly fought the left of the party, and those on the left seeking to destroy it because they’re no longer in charge.

The result? 75% of the electorate are way to the left of Johnson, but instead of using intelligence and teamwork, what do we get? The judean popular people front FFS.

 

Well she did her bit for Lefty racism when she congratulated the new Scottish Labour leader as ‘the first ethnic minority leader’, and refused to even accept she’d fu kked up massively.