Behind The Scenes Issues

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  1. Dub-Tyke

    Dub-Tyke Well-Known Member

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    I’m not a Schopp fan - and after seeing us with all 11 men in the area for the Millwall goal, with no outlet, he needs to go for that alone.

    However, there’s other issues too which occurred before Schopp was appointed which are also contributing factors:

    1) The new CEO seemed to state the other night that the entire squad had no fitness plans in place this summer, as the staff weren’t there. Fitness has been poor. This probably explains why we drop off during the match and we lose games in the 2nd half.

    2) Coaches lost don’t seem to have been replaced still yet.

    3) 2 Belgium lads who are behind on fitness and only just getting there. Iseka does look quality tbf.

    4) The loss of Morris has impacted us a lot. His gameplay has been missing.

    I’m not making excuses, and I think Schopp should go, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was given more time due to these reasons. If he doesn’t go now, he has to be gone by the end of October if things continue as they are.

    UTR.
     
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    If he doesn't go oakwell will be empty for the sheffield United game. Will be a cricket score.
     
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    Morris is a good player but let’s not pin hopes on him please......has not done too many 90 mins for us and he his injury prone!
     
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    Speculation, but I can see where this is coming from. I have felt all season that something is wrong and not quite right. It doesn't all fall on Schopp shoulders of course. We have looked unfit didn't look ready for the season physically. We have had more injuries now than the entire last season. Its not acceptable to have so much back room changes and not manage it properly. However we have seen before the lack of a CEO has created problems. Oh and the scoreboard doesn't work. But generally I think the lack of continuity could cost our place in the championship. Schopp may be the first victim, but the results clearly are his responsibility despite other factors impacting.
     
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    Dub-Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I think any club losing the core staff we lost this summer would take some time to recover from.

    1st team Manager, Assistant Coaches, Analysts, Performance Coaches, Sports Scientists, Club Secretary and Club CEO. All left with seemingly little plans left in place.

    Again, I don’t think Schopp is blameless, but I also think the problem is deeper than just him, and needs time to resolve.

    Again, it was the CEO who said (via Gally’s transcript):

    “Khaled: OK, I'm going to tell you a little bit of what's going on. I saw some questions, you know, you're asking maybe about results. You have to understand something with Barnsley Football club went through this summer. I've been in football 20 years at all levels. I've never, ever experienced all the top management leaves, essentially at the same time, ***players go on five week break without really follow up, which means there are not 100 percent fit *** The manager comes into a situation where there's a staff that doesn't want to lead the club because they're on their way to West Brom. If you imagine this ship, you can see is a ******* tomato. But this ship was like this. Marcus didn't get to bring new systems, players one here, and you still have covid all these regulations. It's been tough. And the staff and bonds have been fantastic. The players do fantastic, and all of this takes time. Look, I didn't. I didn't even arrive until one week ago, and every change within the group of players came late. And I have because of that close, you are ready every time you take a person out of the group and put you in you, it shakes and it takes a bit of time to settle. And with those changes, we've had staff leaving. You've got David is the new club secretary he's here, so you get the chance to say hello to him. We've changed in the physiology department, in the sport and science performance. First analyst environment, there will be some other additions. So imagine all that this is the manager stuff. Everything has changed and that takes time to build trust, and the company didn't have anyone to speak the same language and would be able to connect and move forward. We're also doing some additions within the academy because we've done a lot of internal promotions, which I'm proud of and Barnsley that only produces good quality players. They produce quality staff.
     
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    Then surely questions have to be asked as to why all the senior staff have / are leaving. In business when the senior people start to jump ship at the same time its usually because there's trouble ahead that they know its coming but the staff lower down don't until it arrives.
     
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    Gally did a great job of transcribing this but I have to say, having considered the reported comments, the CEO's comments sounded to me like management bullsh1t. Excuses masking what agenda, I don't know.
     
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    Plus which idiot signed a 6ft 4ins striker with a dodgy back, surely this should have shown up in medical. He must have had it then because he hasn't done anything here since he come , except maybe carry his suitcase
     
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    I bet you're wrong on both counts.
     
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    We would be a different team if we could get Andersen, Oulare and Morris in the same line up.

    The next head coach will have that option hopefully.
     
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    I don’t think it was because there was trouble ahead - more just because the Head Coach wanted to take them all and WBA agreed to it.

    I suspect all of the staff who left have probably had at least a 50% pay rise, if not more. Plus a bigger club, better training facilities and department budgets to match their ambitions. I’m terms of a career move, it would have been a ‘no-brainer’ for most of them.

    Like it or not, WBA are a big club with big money and have just come back down from the PL. They should finish top 2 this season - which if they do, vindicates their decision to leave Oakwell even more.
     
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    Agree. Although Oulare is guess-work as the kid’s barely ever played

    Although if he is a similar prospect to Iseka, then yeah, he’ll be cracking. You can see with Iseka that with a bit more match-fitness he’ll be some player. I thought he was MoM today tbf.
     
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    Probably if we paid them the right money
     
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    I don't really buy the way we play well for 20 minutes on the pitch & then fold. I agree that is pretty damning and maybe contractually unavoidable from last season.

    He still has to go.
     
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    The turnover of backroom and management staff has been huge over the last few months. It's bound to take time to settle and any organisation would struggle to maintain performance levels under those circumstances. I just hope it's not a case of rats leaving a sinking ship because it's so badly run, but you never know...
     
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    Agree about Iseka. He looks a good player for someone nowhere near full fitness who still cannot complete a full game.
     
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    I don"t think we will beat them by that many !
     
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    And if fans continue to personally abuse the players, there'll be a good few of them pushing for a move away in January too...
     
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    We never had 11 players defending a corner when Glav was playing, we normally had 2 on the halfway line. The advantages of doing that are clear to me, forces the opposition to leave more players back thus creating more space in our box thereby giving defenders a better chance of picking up their man. At the same time giving a way out when the ball is cleared. Why do modern coaches not see this? Even Big Val last season never left a player upfield.
     
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    As soon as I saw this - I thought just get rid of him. Negative and actually counterproductive.
     

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