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I agree the fans have been treated terribly, tell you one thing if Patrick cryne was still in charge and we were in this mess on the field and off it he wouldn't have hidden behind a ceo and let him take pelters for shutting the stands or lied to the fans.

If we don't get shut ASAP we will have no chance of avoiding the drop these owners don't seem to care too tight to pay him out. No one wants him here, fans, players he probably wants out himself.

 

I get the feeling after speaking to people that Schopp is very Mourinho. He wants it done his way and if it’s not, your done.
I was told there’s abit of heat between Schopp and a member of our back room staff from their days in Austria, but that’s just hear say.
He seems to lack any enthusiasm, he doesn’t seem to have anything about him. He’s got the charisma of a damp rag, it’s shocking. I don’t mean to insult him, but yes everything we didn’t need. Conway and co have screwed him, but we’ve been screwed more.

 

Wish he was Mourinho! Tbf, don't all football managers want it their way?

 

If Schopp has any sense, he’ll be speaking to the club to negotiate a pay off. Because he’ll be sacked and getting the square root of naff all if he stays for the full season.

Surely it’s in the club’s best interest to be negotiating a severance as well.

 

£25m to buy Barnsley FC? Absolutely no one in their right mind would pay that unless the ground and surrounding land was part of the deal.

 

They'd be lucky to get £10m

 

If they take the same approach as they have with valuing players in the past, someone will get the club for £3m and retaining a future interest

 

Frankly, that isn’t even registering as an issue of concern in the current crapfest.

 

I can’t see them wanting less. Until they get an offer putting them well in profit, expect ever decreasing circles and agitations.

 

The only possibility of this is after a few years of owning us if they think there is no real exit strategy worth hanging on for and would accept around what they paid(maybe with a small increase).

 

I'm not sure what they actually paid (or were supposed to pay) for their 80% stake. Given the £25m figure you mention are you saying it was £5m?
To get anyone to pay in excess of £5m they simply have to get their hands on the ground and surrounding land.
I just don't see that happening despite the tactics they are using to run the ground down.

 

Me an all, but made think re: fitness that the squad numbers could then somehow be related to the players favourite take away

 

Not saying this report is accurate, but it claims in the region of £10- £20 million, which is quite vague.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/barnsley-fc-sold-to-consortium-headed-by-chien-lee/

 

Well Callum Brittain isn't exactly a lucky 7.

 

They didn’t own the ground at Nice either. When you consider the paying off of Patrick’s loan, an £8m consideration and then the promotion clause (if it ever gets fully paid) they could well have ‘paid’ £12-15m.

They’ll get their pound of flesh one way or another.

 

To know what a key players injury is or if he even has one and when we can expect to see him back not asking much is it.

 

The owners have no personal financial liabilities, just the company / club they own. If profit isn't ever on the horizon, will they sell it off to break even or let the business die?
They've done the same financial set up with the other European clubs. Are they edging their bets to see which football market best suits their model? They can then walk away from the others in whatever fashion they see fit.

 

Not even in the top 10 issues.

 

I really hope I'm wrong, but I suspect the next mechanism for extracting money is a credit funding stream as our cash reserves dwindle. I wouldn't then be surprised if we sell a few players in January and another slice of fee to the Crynes is used through the club.

We don't know the true position regarding Directors remuneration. And although any owner remuneration is likely to be nominal (if at all), it could still witness outflow of cash.

Before you know it, the fee they "paid" could be considerably minimised meaning its easier to turn a profit on disposal.

As for their set up, and having someone retain 20%, I've believed for some time that this is used as a mechanism to agitate on disposal to push the asking price. Obviously, they could luck out, they succeed in leveraging everyone down, get success on the pitch for a sustained period and someone comes along thinking its a wonder of football and pay over the odds. But meanwhile, the downside is protected as they agitate to encourage a buyout enshrouded in future peril and risk for the club if the buyout doesn't succeed.

So as such I don't see a model. Certainly not a robust one likely to succeed any time soon. I just see a lot of transactions of unfashionable and relatively cheap clubs across Europe with nothing much to tie them together apart from a too good to be true story and 2 directors.

 

Reason why a code of conduct for owners and proper financial rules and oversight is needed for all UEFA affliated teams and leagues. The fit and proper persons test isn't fit for purpose. Though each club is technically an individual private entity, how can they be allowed to be run unethically. Rather than points deductions, large fines should be levelled at owners personal wealth if they step out of line.
That'll never happen, football officials only care about the money and the owners.