You say potato and I say potato, You say Grove Street and we say OAKWELL

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  1. arp

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    Why do the Club insist on calling it Grove Street or asking for photographs from fans for the club Grove Street mag when everyone for donkeys years know Barnsley F C play at Oakwell and the matchday programme has been Oakwell News since before I started watching the reds in 1968. For goodness sake what with that and the West Stand saga when are the owners gonna grow up and sort the ownership matters out in a sensible and amicably?
     
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    Oakwell Review.
     
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    When was it last Oakwell News? I remember Be Red and Oakwell Review
     
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    The program was call Oakwell Review for years when I started watching. Then was named Be Red (I think), then renamed Grove Street.

    Not sure what the issue is?
     
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    Couldn't care less what the programme is called.

    Oakwell is on Grove Street, twas ever thus.

    I feel that some folk are using the current mood against the board as a opportunity to just pile on with any old sh it. Focus on the actual problems, don't try and invent more.
     
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    Oakwell News? That's going back!

    The programme has been called Grove Street for a while now, and I think @YTBFC explained their usage of it admirably a year or so ago. There's a lot of things to blame the owners for, but I'm not sure that this is one of them.
     
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    I find this a really, really strange thing to be annoyed about. Especially when it’s all over the place and incorrect.

    Be Red and Oakwell Review we’re the programme names. Nothing wrong with Grove Street - other than it’s a street in Burnley and that’s why we want to ground share with*

    * Also factually incorrect but was the conspiracy theory on here for a short time
     
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    I remember lots of connections being attempted last season when the news broke of the legal disputes between the owners. Suggestion being that the program was renamed Grove Street from Be Red, because the club were planning to leave the stadium in Grove Street. Not a logic I ever really understood.
     
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    Yes he did.

    It was entirely the media teams decision if I recall.

    He went through numerous examples of where they had used oakwell or grove Street as well.

    Nothing sinister in it if we take YT for his word. And we've no reason not to
     
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    As you say, nothing sinister. However, it appears to be very unpopular. Heard and read complaints about the name of the program and referring to the ground as Grove Street from numerous sources from lots of people. The best defence of it I've heard is that it's "nothing sinister". I've never heard anyone say they actually like it. Maybe lots of people do and they're remaining quiet about, I don't know, I haven't done any market research, but I have read many people telling one the media team they don't like it, but he does so it's staying. We spend a lot of time and money at my place of work listening to our clients and adjusting things to make them happy. We don't have as big a turnover as BFC, but we make more profit.
     
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    I find it mildly irritating in my Victor Meldrew moments. I guess I don't mind them calling the programme Grove Street too much though why they have to rename it in some supposed bid to keep it relevant is beyond me. They're hardly likely to lose readers to The Macalpine Review or The Bramall Laner are they?
    What did rankle was a trend a couple of years back to infiltrate Grove Street in as the name of the stadium rather than just calling it Oakwell. It got some push back and seems to have died off thankfully.
     
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    All fair points.

    But I think most of the dislike stems from fears of a move away from oakwell with these owners.

    Had it been named grove Street when PC was the owner, I don't think it would be met with as many comments.

    I could be wrong
     
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    The world and times move on. The matchday programme as it was probably doesn’t sell as well. Something pitched as a club magazine that just happens to be released each matchday, with its own clear identity and brand, at least can try and target that younger demographic who from what I can tell don’t collect programmes like many of us used to. And by younger I don’t mean kids, anyone up to 35.

    People are employed to make decisions like this, show progress, forward thinking, and ultimately improve what’s under their remit. Naming the matchday magazine after the street that Oakwell is pretty much on is hardly one to be offended about in my opinion.
     
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    Grove Street Burnley BB11 5AW
     
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    2 miles from the football ground.
     
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    When I was at junior school the programme used to come with a copy of a glossy called the 'Football League Review' inside. It was considered a collectors' item, especially the sought after edition which included a certain Millwall team photo in the centre pages. Eamon Dunphy was seated, with one of his conkers poking out of his shorts. That caused much hilarity among my peer group!
     
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    With everything that’s going off at Oakwell at the moment the name of our program is pretty well down the list of things that’s bothering me.
     
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    Fans like the name Oakwell. They are attached to Oakwell. It's a great name as well. I've chatted with plenty of fans down the years who've commented positively about it. Usually rather than throw the best bits away, a business harnesses them and leverage them.

    As Jay says, I've not heard anyone say they actually like it... "Grove Street". Grove Street is also home to houses, a bit of waste land that used to be a school and the football club. Grove Street isn't therefore unique to the football ground.

    Hopefully it gets ditched soon and the novelty wears off rather than becoming entrenched.

    It's not a huge thing, clearly, for anyone to suggest others are ranking this as importantly as the West Stand or £750k needs to give their head a wobble, but it's yet another thing to pile onto the mountain of crap that is currently Barnsley Football Club, however nominal it is.
     
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    I’m not sure it’s ‘very unpopular’. From what I’ve seen is there’s some noisy dissenters, who are mainly oblivious to the fact that the program had already changed its name from Oakwell Review a number of years earlier. Not sure if that’s a representative view of the fan base. Suspect the majority don’t give a monkeys about it, so don’t say anything.
     
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