Rafiq: Anti-semitism

It is said Rafiq made deeply hurtful anti-Semitic comments by suggesting Jews are tight.

Would it be equally hurtful to suggest the same of the Scots or us Yorkshire folk as is often the case?

I’ve always been amused and strangely proud to be thought a penny pincher.

Is it now utterly prohibited and offensively racist to laugh at any national stereotype?

Why is that gypsies still appear to be fair game?

Genuine questions to which I do not know the answer.

 

Spot on, its smokescreen, deflective crap that racists sometimes trot out to obscure the real issues when the argument has already been lost.

 

The racists will be enjoying this.

 

Some posters need to google “logical fallacy” and “argument from hypocrisy” and “tu quoque”, might learn something.

or to put it simply-

“the moral character or actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.”

 

Rafiq said he'd spoken with various ex-collegues that had rightfully apologised for their actions and that he had accepted their apologies and that's all that he ever wanted .
He's been massively brave in coming forward with his experience which was undoubtedly horrendous.
I just can't get my head around the forgiveness bit. If you continuously call or called someone a name related to their skin colour your a racist and that's unforgivable.

 

This goes back in history to Jews money lending.

https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2012/how-the-church-turned-jews-into-moneylenders

 

Gypsies/ travelers always get picked on whether they do owt bad or not. Minority. Lifestyle choice. Easy target.

 

Some true colours being revealed...

 

It is, but if you see the error of it and apologise and stop being racist and the people involved accept your apology then surely that is forgivable?

 

Why has it been difficult? I would have thought those tags were quite sensible.

 

But he has dished it out but doesn't want it back seems reasonable these days

 

Hi Ringo.

Have you spoken to your "Paki Friend" recently? Introduced him to friends that way? How did that go? You've gone quiet since the other day.

 

You're not.

The stock phrase when I was a kid, when you felt you'd been done, was 'I've been jewed'. I didn't use it much, if at all, although I'm not claiming I absolutely never said it, I just don't remember doing so. But I understood it. Perfectly clearly because I heard it all the time. I didn't use it, not out of some sort of morality, but because I didn't really know how to pronounce it. I'd never heard my mum or dad say it and I wasn't sure if my friends were saying 'Jood' with a J, or 'Djood' with a D, like a sound made with D and J together. I wasn't going to ask how to pronounce the word as I'd never hear the end of it, so I didn't use it. But it wouldn't have been a moral choice anyway because I had absolutely no idea it had any connection to being Jewish. It never dawned on me that it was a derivative of Jew.

The people I hung around with at secondary school didn't use it, so I heard it less and less and by the time I was at 6th form I'd completely forgotten the word. It's only much later in my life, not having heard the term for a long, long time, probably when reading a report on anti-Semitism, that I finally connected that word to its origin.

If you're slow on the uptake then so am I, and so are many people my age to whom I've since spoken about this, who remember the term well but also didn't make the connection at the time.

 

We and the Scots wear the tight statement as a badge of honour. I prefer prudent myself.

 

Grow up fonzie you are really getting annoying with your woke attitudes. What has happened today proves rafiq has given as good as he got. Seems funny he has just opened a new chip shop as well. Free publicity now be a good lad and go to bed

 

Just tragic this.

Presume you haven't introduced your "Paki Friend" then yet?

Disgraceful.

 

It really, really doesn't.

 

I wonder why some people find it so hard to just not be racist?