Can't believe we adopt the tactic of 11 men back. It just invites constant pressure if cleared. I can't remember who our manager was, when we used to put 2 men up front. But I found that a better ploy.. Hudders had 2 men sat 10yds outside the box. With another 1 picking up any lengthy clearance.
Said it when schopp was here its very negative and gives no outlet. European coaches seem to love it.
For one corner yesterday there were 16 players in our 6 yard box and another 4 in the 18 yard box. With only their keeper and one player outside our box
I've always said that the less players in the box the easier it is for the defending team as they have a goalkeeper with hands. I'd risk it just once. On the halfway line,1 on each wing and one on each side of the centre circle then two more halfway between the box and half way line. The attacking team would have to leave half their team back just in case. How easy would it be for Collins if he had a clear box to come out and catch the ball
Years ago Tranmere came, John Aldridge was manager and every time we got a corner they left 3 or 4 men on the half way line.
We did the same last season under Val, so make of that what you will. Here's a screenshot of last season versus Huddersfield for example (we conceded from this corner actually).
Sunday league stuff unfortunately, ‘everybody back!’ And then the big hoof up field for everyone to chase. The more players you leave up field defending a corner the more nervous the attacking team will get, and will be left with no option but to keep players back to mark those players in case of a clearance.
Just shows, you can have everyone back and a master disciplinarian in charge like Val, with his winning football, and still concede from corners. Imagine if we’d pushed a couple of lads up field we may have prevented a goal as their attack wouldn’t have been as potent. I wonder if he still does it at West Brom?
I always fall back on the knowledge that 99% of teams pull either everyone back, or at least all bar one player. So if they’re all doing it, and not leaving men up on halfway, as many are suggesting, maybe these people know more than we do? I dunno. It’s not like we’ve someone rapid to leave up there in case we break out I suppose.
Doesn't have to be a quick player. Leave Morris on the halfway line. He can hold the ball well and make a nuisance of himself. They'd need at least two back there with him, just to feel safe.
But the opposing argument would be to have him defending the corner, as one of your best players aerially and in terms of strength. If fans are suggesting it would be better to leave a number of men on halfway or whatever, then why aren't any clubs doing it? For what it's worth, I'd personally leave a couple further up field. But I'm not a coach, so I assume there's a reason why it's not a common occurrence in the game.
I reckon it's because theyve all been coached in the same way and none of them dare take a big risk in case they look stupid.
I may be wearing rose-tinted glasses, but it feels like the professional game is crammed with negativity these days, compared to yesteryear. No wingers, no-one left up when defending corners, players scared to shoot, too many safe passes, no-one willing to run at the opposition... Negativity is rife in football. Everything I love about the game has been systematically removed from it.
Was it Sheff Wed's away in 2009, the 1 0 win, Campbell-ryce goal Bobby goal line clearance, Simon Davey at the helm. I'm sure that was the game where we left 3 men up for every corner.
I can’t bear it. It’s the second stupidest **** in football, apart from failure to mark the person who’s taking the throw in.