Efl players refused to have vac

As apposed to vaxed players who catch COVID . What's the difference ?

 

Vaccinated people have played their part to cut the risk of catching it as you're less likely to catch covid jabbed.

 

I'm pretty sure most people don't know liver failure and severe bleeding are on there given that they are very rare. All medicines interact differently with people and when you have tens of millions of people taking it then there will be adverse reactions purely due to the sheer volume.

You mention concerns about the vaccine limiting performance- I'd suggest long covid and covid itself is more likely to cause damage than the vaccine.

Everyone should have a choice and nobody be forced or penalised.

 

Again the difference between something that has been around over a hundred years is there has been loads of research over time and publicised too. Also every medical expert in the world would be able to advise an individual of potential risks.

COVID as we have seen has as many ‘experts’ with a negative view as positive.
I’m not commenting on if they are right or not, saying it causes uncertainty which can lead to different decisions.

 

Shall we wait 100 years then for every medication we develop and see what happens? Or what constitutes a reasonable amount of time? How many deaths do we reckon have actually been prevented by the vaccine? I'd imagine an awful lot given how hospital numbers are staying lower than we had at its peak.

Sorry for being pedantic about it, it is just viewpoints like this that put people off from having it when they don't understand the testing processes involved.

Through my role I've spoken to quite a few young lads and lasses of uni age who are dealing with long covid, yet you'd think from reading the views on here it doesn't affect anyone who is young, fit and healthy. Just because Covid isn't likely to kill you it doesn't mean the other symptoms aren't debilitating for younger age groups.

 

The new variant is more transmissible so you get more cases. With more cases even a smaller percentage of hospitalisations from those cases leads to an increase of hospitalisations.

 

Vaccines don't stop you catching or spreading COVID. They're young, fit and healthy athletes. They don't need jabbing. The elderly and vulnerable do.

Why waste time jabbing young fit and healthy people? Bizarre.

 

Not sure how you have made the leap of thinking I’ve even remotely suggested waiting any length of time let alone 100 years?

All I’ve put is I understand how with mixed info out there I can understand how a Player might be reluctant to have a jab. I also said I didn’t necessarily agree with that thought process.
Your comment above confirms how people think different things(rightly or wrongly).

In terms of Paracetamol the only reason that came up was because another posted tried to compare it to the Vaccines. Which I disagree with purely because it has been around much longer and potential risks are well known factually.

edit: your reply above suggests you think I’m against Vaccines etc, I’m not I am fully jabbed and had a booster.

 

For most it is likely to cause an inconvenience, yet for some...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...overy-stories-jayson-tatum-mo-bamba-asia-durr

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...ports/coronavirus-survivors-athletes.amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...fects-on-athletes-keyontae-johnson-basketball


I could go on. Lewis Hamilton missed two races last year and talked about how it floored him. These are athletes in peak fitness. Imagine then how it affects some 20 year olds who are healthy but not under these kinds of training regimes.

 

It is used frequently as a means of putting people off though (and thus generating uncertainty for many), so no I didn't assume you suggest we wait.

People die of liver failure from taking paracetamol but arguably the benefits outweigh the risks as millions of people would probably die without it (given it helps to reduce high temperatures alone). I'd guess that very few with a headache choose not to take it on the off chance they might die.

 

I'm assuming all the dead people under 40 should just shake it off and crack on then.

 

Can you just do some research?

 

I suppose you could go out and find the few rare cases if death and serious illness caused by vaccine too.
I can certainly understand why a professional athlete may be more dubious about having a vaccine than me.
The hight of my physical exertions are a Sunday walk with the kids round Rabbit Ings.

 

The problem is… he’s been doing ‘research’.

The worlds gone mad, 30 years ago if you weren’t an actual expert, the chances of millions of people reading your uneducated ramblings were non-existent, nowadays, you can call yourself an expert, write whatever you like and sit back and wait for idiots to read quote and share your nonsense.

Add in the fact the those most deluded have the loudest voices and are most certain that they’re right and this is where we land.

 

Not sure. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it.It's not like they're losing their iivelihood but presumably the spread of Covid will cost the club. I

 

Ahh some classic use of the old quotation marks in this thread.

So called 'vaccine'

So called 'science'

So called 'experts'

So called 'virus'

Good to see so many post-structuralist philosophers keeping relativism alive and healthy. Derrida must have taught at Willowgarth.

 

Thing is we're using our knowledge built up over the centuries to make the vaccination. We're not starting from scratch.

 

I think people should have the choice to be jabbed or not, but they should sign a waver saying they will not receive medical treatment in a hospital if they fall ill from Covid.

 

But weren't the government constantly arguing they were always following the science?
Same as following the rules I suppose.
The Party of Partying.

 

If you have 10 mins to spare, this interview with Matt Le Tissier and Bryan Roy is quite interesting. Jonathan Van Tam and various politicians financially linked to the major pharmaceutical companies etc.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wPWqltQgNKqM/