Vaccination and kids

The frequency and severity of vaccine injuries has not been released.

You have the vaccine and you've definitely had it. You won't definitely contract Covid-19.

Having said that, I really don't wish to offer the OP any advice at all. This is a decision for that family. If I were to offer any it's just not to let this decision worry any of you too much and there isn't a wrong choice.

 

What I'd say is set off from the point of view that in general vaccines are good and rather than trying to come up with reasons why she should have it, come up with reasons she shouldn't. Set off from the default position of yes and see if you can convince yourself no as that's what you've done with every other vaccine.

It's what I did for myself. Vaccines are good so why wasn't I keen on this one? Well it was untested in the long term and was rushed with many questions still to be asked. From there I decided to wait a little (which as it turned out I had to anyway due to the roll out) after a few months we had answered a lot of questions and had obviously gained more months of testing too. At that point I decided that I didn't have enough reasons to say no so resorted to my default position of yes.

 

Before You Inject Your Child

My name is Robert Malone, and I am speaking to you as a parent, grandparent, physician and scientist. I don’t usually read from a prepared speech, but this is so important that I wanted to make sure that I get every single word and scientific fact correct.

I stand by this statement with a career dedicated to vaccine research and development. I’m vaccinated for COVID and I'm generally pro-vaccination. I have devoted my entire career to developing safe and effective ways to prevent and treat infectious diseases.

Before you inject your child - a decision that is irreversible - I wanted to let you know the scientific facts about this genetic vaccine, which is based on the mRNA vaccine technology I created:

There are three issues parents need to understand:

● The first is that a viral gene will be injected into your children's cells. This gene forces your child’s body to make toxic spike proteins. These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs, including

○ Their brain and nervous system

○ Their heart and blood vessels, including blood clots

○ Their reproductive system

○ And this vaccine can trigger fundamental changes to their immune system

● The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable

○ You can’t fix the lesions within their brain

○ You can’t repair heart tissue scarring

○ You can’t repair a genetically reset immune system, and

○ This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family

● The second thing you need to know about is the fact that this novel technology has not been adequately tested.

○ We need at least 5 years of testing/research before we can really understand the risks

○ Harms and risks from new medicines often become revealed many years later

● Ask yourself if you want your own child to be part of the most radical medical experiment in human history

● One final point: the reason they’re giving you to vaccinate your child is a lie.

○ Your children represent no danger to their parents or grandparents

○ It’s actually the opposite. Their immunity, after getting COVID, is critical to save your family if not the world from this disease

In summary: there is no benefit for your children or your family to be vaccinating your children against the small risks of the virus, given the known health risks of the vaccine that as a parent, you and your children may have to live with for the rest of their lives.

The risk/benefit analysis isn’t even close.

As a parent and grandparent, my recommendation to you is to resist and fight to protect your children.

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I don't know whether his concerns are valid or not. I'm sure there are people who will put forward fact-check reports to discredit his opinion even though he has spent many years working in the development of vaccines and appears to be more than suitably qualified to hold a professional opinion. Ultimately, it is up to you whether you choose to get your children vaccinated or not... But if you choose to then you need to be prepared to stand by your decision in the event of your child suffering a life-changing adverse reaction or worse for a disease that has a 99.998% survival rate among under-18s. Personally, I have come to the conclusion that the risks far outweigh the possible benefits and therefore won't be approving vaccination for my children. Other people may choose differently and, if they do, I sincerely hope they don't come to regret that desision as many parents already have.

 

So you don't know if any of that is valid or not?
But you posted it anyway.
How about you try posting stuff that is validated?
That would reduce your input considerably though.

 

Then you are spreading misinformation.

Before taking Robert Malone's word it's probably worth reading this article from Nature. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

Although the TLDR version of it is that Malone worked on mRNA vaccines since the 80s and doesn't feel like he's been given enough credit for his contribution to the invention of Biontech and Moderna's COVID vaccines.

 

Who would you like it validated by Churton? The CEOs of Pfizer and Astra Zeneca perhaps?

This is a personal decision for parents to make. I have made my decision in respect of my children and I am happy to stand by it. I'm sure those parents who have opted to have their children vaccinated are too.

 

This is also informative should you care to understand why a medical doctor might be saying such things. https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/ Reminds me very much of Andrew Wakefield.

 

This with Giant Jingle Bells on!

@casual tyke any update on the next big development in Washington? Will the Orange one and his band of uneducated cousin ******** be taking back control anytime soon?

 

I'd be inclined to believe the CEO of AstraZeneca given that their vaccine isn't mRNA based.

For somebody so intent on people doing their own research, you don't generally seem to be very good at it!

 

Yes, I'm sure you're right and he's probably just come up with all that for shits n' giggles along with the likes of Peter McCullough, Geert vanden Bossche, Judy Mikovits, Sherry Tenpenny, Michael Yeadon, Dolores Cahill and many other medical professionals who are expressing similar concerns about vaccinating children. With regards to your article links... I suspect you could bombard me with similar articles in respect of all the people I've just named. It's strange how any doctors and medical research scientists who dare to voice their concerns in opposition to the big pharmaceutical companies seem to get similarly smeared, defunded and discredited online.

Anyway.... It's entirely up to you what you choose to believe or discern as being 'misinformation' but, personally, I think a discussion as important as this warrants an examination of both sides of the argument.

The latest available statistics suggest that your 13 year old daughter will probably be okay by the way and I'm sure that she will recognise that your intentions were good and not hold it against you if she's not.

https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/

 

@judith charmers I, on the other hand, implore you not to ignore anything or anybody. Instead, you should consider arguments from both sides before weighing up the perceived benefits and potential risks to arrive at a decision that best meets the needs of your daughter and other family members. If you do that, then whatever you decide will be the 'right' thing to do.

 

I'm fully aware that the AstraZeneca vaccine isn't mRNA based. I wasn't aware I had suggested anywhere that it was but I welcome your contribution to the discussion nevertheless.

 

If the other side are paid for shills, that have not been peer reviewed on this matter.
Anyone can publish rubbish and call themselves scientists. It's all about being peer reviewed. I suggest you watch this week's Hardtalk on BBC News with Neil DeGrasse Tyson. He sums up the state of society at the minute. All roads lead back to Andrew Wakefield and the media. The media in.that case messed up hugely and apologised. Now certain media outlets like Fox and the Spectator look for non peer reviewed scientists to provide a study that meets their narrative.

Just to add you've named Judy Nutjob in your response. I once saw some her stuff, and mentioned it on here. She may come across genuine, trust me she's a lunatic with many axes to grind..

 

Are the other side paid for shills? I would be interested to see your evidence for this.

I think I'll pass on the BBC 'News', thanks. I'm not here to tell you, or anyone else what to think or believe. That's entirely up to you. I'm simply suggesting that there are contrasting views to those provided by the BBC. If you consider where the BBC receives its donations from you might have reason to believe that the BBC aren't completely impartial when it comes to commenting on vaccination-related matters. In fact, if you check the link below you will see 1,569,000 reasons why the BBC reporting might not be entirely neutral.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/about/funding

 

I’ve got the opposite my 11 year old is desperate to have the vaccine so she feels ok around her grandparents but isn’t old enough. I guess at the end of the day you can only do what feels right. Just listen to the medical experts not us bums.

 

should have just typed “woof I’m a nutter’.

 

exactly the situation adults are in after the jab (if not better) hence they should not be put at risk until we do know the long term effects. Thats my thoughts on it. Each to their own though.

 

Not a big fan of facts then along with acclaimed astrophysicist then.
Hardly surprising really, you did so well following the US Election providing wonderful Intel and sources.

 

One man's 'facts' is another man's 'propaganda' but you keep following BBC News and Neil deGrasse Tyson and I'm sure you'll be just fine.

Now run along and get your booster old boy.