So studies show that Omicron appears to result in a 70% reduction in hospitalisations

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  1. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    And in South Africa upto an 80% reduction in hospitalisations.

    Plus in England we have just pushed a massive vaccination booster campaign with all at risk people* long since offered a 2rd jab and most other adults offered one which would logically suggest that our hospitalisation rate will be even lower than theirs.

    This can only be good news and shows that case rates alone mean largely nothing and as was mentioned a long time ago by the blonde racist l, we may well have broken the link between cases and hospitalisations. If that's the case then maybe this hell could finally be over as other mutations tend to be weaker and weaker

    * I understand that some extremely at risk people either can't have the vaccine or find that it is basically useless for them anyway and I sincerely wish those people and their families all the best.
     
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    I think what you meant was that omicron results in 70% less hospjtalisations than delta for the same number of infections. This is good news, however, omicron has spread massively faster so that infection numbers are now so high that we don't have the testing capacity to accurately measure it. The net result might be better than before or it might be worse, we don't know yet and won't know for several weeks. There were 106,000 recorded infections this week the highest so far....
     
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    The Imperial College study says 15-20% less likely to be hospitalised compared to Delta, 40-45% less likely to be in hospital for a night or more and 50-60% less likely to be hospitalised if having had a previous infection. The conclusion is :

    "Our analysis shows evidence of a moderate reduction in the risk of hospitalisation associated with the Omicron variant compared with the Delta variant.

    "However, this appears to be offset by the reduced efficacy of vaccines against infection with the Omicron variant. Given the high transmissibility of the Omicron virus, there remains the potential for health services to face increasing demand if Omicron cases continue to grow at the rate that has been seen in recent weeks."


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-ri...n-with-delta-scotland-study-suggests-12502277
     
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    Caught the end of something tonight on Radio 2 , where someone basically said by the time we have the data needed it would be too late in terms of slowing it down etc, does that sound correct?
     
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    Also the fact that NHS staff are going down with the virus in larger numbers. Putting extra strain on available resources. It's a bit of a balancing act for me.
     
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    It's looking good.

     
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    That can't be right. We've had 106,000 new cases today, how is the line for daily cases on the graph going down?
     
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    It's not a graph of daily cases, it's a graph of rate of increase.
     
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    It’s a % increase. The absolute number can be going up but the % increase is decreasing.
     
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    Meaningless when test results can't keep pace with the testing.
     
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    I think the latest test number show 1.5million tests undertaken today that’s about 50% up from last week.

    If anyone wants to see the data for cases, deaths and everything else try this link https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
     
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    They are five days behind with the results.
     
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    try that link it shows cases by specimen date. This shows a lag but also shows some tests are processed within 24 hours.
     
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    Interesting that we actually hit 100,000 cases per day on 15 December.
     
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    Not everywhere. That might impact slightly but a lot of people pay for the 24 hour return so they know where they stand.

    It’s always been 2-3 days. Not every test result is a 5 day wait.
     
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    A smaller percentage of a bigger base number (more transmissible) is still a big number. We have to trust those making the decisions that they are making the right ones based on that. I trust Sturgeon and Drakeford far more than a Johnson.
     
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    Not sure the Scottish and Welsh have the confidence you do in their respective ‘leaders’
     
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    Well I think we can at least say the vaccine passports were a waste of time in Scotland and Wales.
     
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    the vast majority do. Unfortunately for us all the minority shout both stupidest and loudest.
     
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    Not sure how you draw that conclusion. Especially north of the border where the SNP are having their own ‘Boris like’ issues
     
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