Hoof ball, vertical ball, long ball, A1.....kick and run

Whatever you chose to call it a think we need to revert to last seasons tactics..........a don’t even know what system or formation we’re playing at the minute but these lads are like lambs in going to the slaughter house game in game out!!!

If we’re going down let’s go down throwing ******* kitchen sink at it.......we’ve got some pace in the team and young lads who should have some good engines on them, let’s stop pissing about in our penalty box and get it in the opposite half, we’ve 2 giants at the back who can keep sending it back forward.......we’ve a midfield who’d struggle to challenge a ghost so let’s see how we fair up with last seasons system.....let’s face it it can’t be any worse than this ****!!!!!

This manager doesn’t have Time to try new formulas or tactics......desperate times require desperate measures and these are well and truly desperate times!!!!!

 

We havent got the players to play it theres only morris we have who is able to win a arieal battle and has strength to hold the ball up. We play with no width and arent very well organised. I do agree we need a chamge from the tippy tappy play football in our own half move the ball forward so slow and predictable that cost us at blackburn and has most of the season.

 

Iseka and Victor are both 6ft sting pacey lads, Woodrow played just about every game last season, other than Mowatt things haven’t particularly changed that much, last year we were managed by someone ago had a plan and vision, this year we’ve been managed by David Blunkett and Stevie Wonder

 

Forgot about vic to be fair yes he can win a header. past few games iseka has been poor, woodrow will most likely be gone soon. And i agree we look badly organized and intent on playing it out from the back when we dont have the players or idea to do it. I dont think it will change because as said this style of football increases the players value or so im told.

 

We’ve already been told about this. Hoof ball doesn’t improve the value of players so we won’t do it.

 

Hoof ball doesnt improve the development of our players and as such was a short term solution which teams find away around. Footballers play football, vinny Jones and John Fashanu played hoofball.
As the OP says its an option for this season which may be worth a try and he has put forward an idea instead of moaning but hopefully the talent our lads have and Poya's time with them in training hopefully will start to work and the results will come.

 

Whilst we have looked better under Poya we’re still a sinking ship IMO, take the Blackburn game for augment sake, the first half was one of the worst I’ve witnessed as a fan, the second half we set off the better team but then stupid mistakes in dangerous areas cost us a point, last year we weren’t world beaters but we made our mistakes in the opposing half not ours and this season were getting absolutely mullered for it too!!! If the manager board or whoever it is can’t see that we need a change then we may aswel get ready for league 1 now!!!

 

f**k me there’s a unicorn.

 

Vinny Jones and John fashanu are names that people know 20 to 30 years later. Who's going to remember Josh Benson in 2050 playing the way he does? I'll tell you who. Nobody.

 

I think we are getting ready for league 1 now, I am, this would be the greatest escape ever in our history.

 

To add to my previous reply I'll also ask why is hoofball as you put it a short term solution but other styles that the owners of Barnsley FC have told you are better are permanent solutions? The notion that an opposing player can easily learn to nullify 'hoofball' but not any other style is bonkers really. I'd argue it's a hell of a lot easier to teach a player to tackle and put a foot in when your wingers are dribbling the ball than it is to somehow teach the same player to magically be bigger, stronger and faster than Daryl dike. As such I'd say that a more traditionally skill based approach is easier to play against than a physical approach is.

I'd also say that your assertion we have not developed our players is completely false. Of course they developed but they developed in a way that suited the tactics we were successful in. The only reason that they weren't developed in a way that suits their game this season is because we didn't play this style until our greedy owners got involved and decided to play football manager enforcing a change in style that suited the BUSINESS MODEL of a hotelier, media investor and someone with a love of spreadsheets.

Or to put it another way. Stop blindly trying to support everything our owners do and look at the facts.

 

To be fair to Vinny Jones, he actually had more skill than he was ever credited for. Mainly because he was asked to play a certain way. JF was just a bludgeoning tool.

 

Great song, comfortably in my top 10.

 

Got to be worth a try. Almost all the players had the best part of a season playing that way, they should be capable of going back to it. Might be our only chance of staying up.

 

Whether it’s hoofball, Val ball or whatever, I don’t really care. But if the coach, CEO or anybody at the club thinks that trying to outpass every team will have anything but a bad outcome, then they’re seriously deluded.

We can’t pass through teams and we can’t keep clean sheets. We may as well start putting players and crosses into the box. If we show the sort of effort that we did against West Brom every week, we can give ourselves a chance against some of the mid table or lower teams. Whether it will be enough to stay up is another matter.

 

I’ve just had a lengthy debate with my dad and whilst we both agreed we look better under Poya we’re still miles off from looking like we’re good enough to stop up!!

There’s going to come a point where we have to really throw caution to wind and a think we’re only a few weeks off, yea he’s made us harder to beat but we still look utter **** in the middle and up top

 

The current midfield we have will be eaten alive by the men playing in L1 midfields next season theres more backbone in a squashed slug than in Benson and Palmer and yer can't coach backbone into a player they've either got it or not.

 

He may have been bludgeoning tool but Id take him at his prime for our team at the minute he'd give the opposition something to think about for a change

 

Let’s hope this month we see some additions to the starting XI cos If not this decision not to bring back Kane will nothing short of a total shambles