For anyone who voted conservatives at the last election

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Can it be a mistake? SD clearly had hopes for a Boris-led administration, and was entitled to vote for that option. He has delivered considerably less than he promised, but we only know that with hindsight - even though many of us expected it.
     
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    Here’s the point everyone is missing.

    It no longer matters who anyone votes for next time. This Labour cabinet have lurched so far to the right nothing much would change.

    We had a once in a lifetime opportunity in 2019 to get a centre left, sensible, caring, investing, rebuilding government. And we blew it, because people believed Johnson, Murdoch, Kuensberg, Rachel F******* Riley, Hopkins, bankers, rather than doctors, scientists, unions etc.

    So it’s job done. No amount of regret and ‘next time’ will now make a blind bit of difference. Starmer made 10 pledges in his leadership bid to get the membership on side. He has since gone back on ALL TEN! Can he be trusted any more than Johnson? Not for me, that’s why my card went in the bin and the DD was stopped some time ago.

    If there was an election tomorrow I’d be plumping for TUSC, or maybe NIP if they stand here. Both completely wasted votes of course. But I could not bring myself to vote for Labour while ever they are being run by right wing, neo-liberals.
     
  3. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    The irony being your actions (if others follow) will see a right wing government elected.
     
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    S74 Red Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but which one…….
     
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    Red Rob Well-Known Member

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    ******.

    Corbyn didn't lose the election bacause he was left wing, he lost it because he was an idiot. He believed in tertiary strikes, a maximum wage cap, giving back the Falklands, Brexit, anti-semitism, he wouldn't sing the national anthem etc, etc.

    He would have been a disaster for business which lost the centre ground even against an imploding May, then got annihilated by Johnson.
     
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    I'll probably vote for Kier next time, after reading some of these posts it seems like an even better way to wind up the loony lefties.
     
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    What was it I said about the left?

    Job done!

    In 20 years time when our grandkids ask their parents how they allowed 50 years of improvement for the working class to be pi ssed away. They’re gonna sheepishly look up and mutter something about how they’d campaigned to get a kids author cancelled because she’d dared suggest that women need a safe space, protected from ‘women’ with dicks.

    And why wouldn’t the left vote Labour? Because they got rid of a leader who’d failed to get elected twice. As if the whole of political history can be ignored for the cult of Corbyn.

    There’s no right or wrong in the Corbyn war btw, seeing lefties ‘but Corbyn’ is more embarrassing than seeing Tories do it.

    Thinking about it; I’m not even sure it’s a new thing. The Right have always stuck together and the Left have always been a rag tag bunch of ‘interest groups’.

    Talk to a Tory about their favourite politicians and they’ll gleefully tell you how Churchill won the war, Thatcher rebuilt the country, Cameron saved the economy and gave them Brexit etc.

    Do the same with Labour; you’ll get an angry tirade about every former leaders faults. John Smith is the only Labour leader in my lifetime who’s universally venerated - is it a coincidence he never lived long enough to fail?

    We get the politicians we deserve, and it’s not only Tory voters who are responsible for the fact we’re run by a lying sociopath.
     
  8. orsenkaht

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    Does Johnson survive? It's interesting that Douglas Ross, Scottish Tory leader apparently asked Johnson whether he could guarantee that there were no more embarrassments to come. No such guarantee was given, suggesting that Cummings or others may still have further ammo up their sleeves. More interesting times ahead!
     
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    He’s a dead man walking . Only a matter of time before they get rid . Even his apology was poor , he still thinks it was a work event / and not a party
     
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    Just a thought, but why doesn't Labour table a confidence vote?

    If it is passed we get a General Election when the Tories are at their weakest and will surely be kicked out.

    If it fails, when it comes to the next GE, the opposition can point out to the electorate that their Tory MP voted to keep Johnson in Downing street to carry on partying.

    Might be a good idea.
     
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    Because a confidence vote initiated by Keir will rally the Tory backbenchers behind Boris. But by slowly torturing the mendacious one he can leave the 1922 to do their own dirty work. And anyway, wouldn't Keir like to face Boris in 2024 after another two years of lying and bumbling?
     
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    Exactly my point, they couldn't get rid of him having just supported him in a confidence vote.
    Might be better to keep the dead man walking in place rather than face a shiny new leader.
     
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    So, channel crossing migrants are in the news this morning,,,,,wonder why?
     
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    Got to keep the racists angry.
     
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    And lo and behold! A member of Johnson's household has tested positive today so he won't be seen in public today! Fancy that! :D:D:D
     
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    This is plan B if plan A fails (baby being popped out)
     
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    Not quite. 55 letters triggers a vote of no confidence in Johnson as party leader. If he wins that, he gets another year before the next challenge. If he loses, its popcorn time as the candidates tear each other to shreds.
     
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    Of course there's more to come considering this party fiasco was less than 6 months into his Prime Ministership.
     
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    Unfortunately for the Tories, the best candidate in the entire party for PM is erm, Theresa May - arguably the 3rd worst PM in living memory...

    My tip for next leader is Steve Baker. Utter loon, but is white, male, and has the ERG, CRG, NZRG credentials that the membership seem to like.

    And for what its worth, my prediction is that the Conservative Party will have no MPs within a decade or so - they will have to rebrand to get over the toxicity of Brexit and their Covid handling. This wouldn't be the first time it happened (from the Tory Party to Conservative Party in the 1850s, following the Whigs to Liberals - less than 20 years after they got the largest ever majority in British politics).
     
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