Baggies hammering Big Val...

@Loko the Tyke is right in that recruitment since summer has been our Achilles heel this year. The transfer window has produced nothing (yet) and seeing as the owners are aware of their standing (thanks Khaled) wouldn't it be just soooooooo PMG if they sacked Poya and got Val in tomorrow Just to save face. Make the noise go away.

We'll have spent more on Head Coach comings and goings than most Prem teams have spent on players (this window).

 

They'd have me back on board. And, controversially, I think Val would give as a good chance of staying up even with the squad we've got.

 

Val would hold all the aces if that were to happen and Conway wouldn't like that one little bit. That's why it won't

 

Take care mate, and pass on my regards to everyone.

 

Thank you. I will.

 

I think I would he at least had passion

 

Might not be so cut and dried if WBA did decide to dispense of his services. Didn’t they pioneer the gardening leave scenario for managers, thus holding them to contract and meaning any other club wanting the manager still had to negotiate with them?

 

I’d agree but we all know they’re far too stubborn for that. I miss his passion and tenacity.

 

And for the record, that £2m minus Schopp contract, minus Poyas wages and possibly £6M income loss from relegation is looking rather foolhardy. Although I do recognise that it was the agreed release clause, the board should have been opening talks about a new contract with Val the minute we hit top six in my opinion.

 

I do not disagree with you about returning managers as history will show that it has never worked at Barnsley, in fact history also shows that we have had most success with promoting from within , for example Norman Hunter , Danny Wilson , Andy Ritchie & Paul Heckingbottom all achieved promotion after being elevated to the managers position from other positions within the club , the only one to buck the trend of course is Stendel who did a great job .

 

Allan Clarke achieved it, too, when he was appointed player/manager in 1978.

 

It's called man management, a critical attribute that is needed with a head coach/manager. Something that the spreadsheet probably doesn't illustrate unfortunately.

 

true but he was not appointed from within, he came from Leeds to take the job as player / manager . He did a fantastic job & in my opinion he changed our complete structure & made us a thoroughly professional outfit for the first time in our history , I was that pleased with his achievement that we named one of our sons after him, not sure our son was that pleased when he started having to sign his name lol .

 

No, the point I was making is that Daniel Stendel wasn't the only one who bucked the trend of achieving promotion after being appointed from within.

 

I posted similar a few months ago, and some replies questioned my sanity. Changing coaches every 8 months, will inevitably lead to a bad one. The funds that have gone into Schopp, Poya, Benson, Iseka, Oulare, Cole could have been concentrated on keeping Ismael and maybe even Mowatt.

 

Ismael would have been an absolute fool to stay after last season. There's no chance he could have repeated that success and if he'd stayed and his stock fallen he'd possibly have blown his chance of ever really making it to the top level. As it is, even with arguably better players he's struggling.
Mowatt, similar. We'd have had to pay him so far above the wage structure it would have blown the thing apart.

 

There's better players, and there's better players for him and his style. I'm not sure he inherited both at West Brom. He could've kept us mid table and still have had offers. I just don't think West Brom are a good fit for him, for various reasons.

 

Sounds like a poor performance it happens once or twice to teams at the top end, Bournemouth at home to Hull only last week, Fulham at home to Sheff utd. West Brom have been having 20+ shots a game or near as but last neet only 8 shots thats us on a good day.that is.

Trouble Val has there is he needs a decent striker or two and then they sign Dike and he gets injured straight away, the reason they are up there is that the have a very strong defence.