You thought our fans were turning? Some of the tweets look so consistent throughout all their clubs. Yet still the arrogance continues.
Nancy have been in turmoil for years though and really were a club bought in distress. I don't know if the current owners ever managed to get the transfer embargo lifted to recruit in the Summer, or in January, but complaints were lodged with FIFA because they got around the transfer ban by signing players within the network - like Simoes from us. https://www.insideworldfootball.com...written to,by allegedly exploiting a loophole. I'm nervous about using the situation at other clubs to add weight to what we're facing as league positions alone don't explain the full story. Oostende were one game away from being in the Europa League last season, and days away from going out of business before they were bought, where as the Dutch team finished second bottom last season. The Swiss team are there or there abouts, and 'Iceberg' are a few places lower than they'd like.
I'm not nervous about sharing it as the thoughts of lots of supporters, across all their portfolio, are far from coincidental and certainly not orchestrated. We had a good season. Followed by a toxic one. Ditto Oostende. It seems any one of them has had short-term new-owner bounce, yet nearly all are now languishing. I make no apologies for pointing out the fact the whatever their wealth and business acumen, it simply has not manifested itself in their football portfolio. The arrogance of continuing astounds me, as does their failure to acknowledge. European football is not for them. Data-driven, science led US Soccer might be.
To be fair the tweet doesn't mention league position, just highlights the exasperation of supporters due to current ownership, which sounds familiar.
Not expecting you to make apologies and I said I would be nervous, not you. The Dutch team are overachieving vs. last year, Nancy are in a right mess (as are we), Denmark appears so so, same with the Swiss, and Oostende seems to be mixed rather than a complete disaster currently. People don't go online or start blogs/vlogs to be ambient, so without being much closer to it I can't form much of an opinion. It's fair to point out that they bought teams where any success will be seen as a surprise - like us last season.
Well it says 'years' doesn't it? Which links to my part about the club being in turmoil prior to purchase as well. I then linked through to the transfer embargo story which I imagine made recruitment virtually impossible. Not excusing it just saying there's always more to something than a few tweets.
You’d think that by buying clubs which then almost always turn to shït, they’d stop for a second to try to work out why, what was working and what wasn’t, rather than buy even more clubs and do the same thing. It’s like someone buying Blockbuster, Woolworths, Suggs Sports, Debenhams, then seeing them all go out of business, then thinking I know, let’s buy Littlewoods and BHS, I think we are on to summat.
Careful - you'll be giving them ideas. "Hey Chien my friend, I've just had a great tip from some limey guy in Barnsley and I think we might be onto something good. What say you?"
The turnaround community is full of people doing just that. Using someone elses money, stripping the carcass a little more, flipping it to some another PE/VC entity until that carcass is bare and they move onto the next distressed entity.
Yes but looking at the current position (not in the league table but the standpoint of supporters with our owners in charge) - for example, the comments on 'rotten sports choices with pathetic recruitment' - it isn't dissimilar to our own situation. They have an uncanny ability to seriously **** people off with their mis-management is all I'm saying. I found the tweet from a supporter of a club they also own very interesting, as it aligns greatly with our current predicament.
'The Swiss team' were relegated from the first tier during their first part season (came on board in the November) after qualifying for Europe the season before and have failed to get back. It's a bit different there though; they only have a 25% stake.
Wasn't aware of that relegation. Just saw they finished 2nd in their first full season behind Grasshoppers.
Couple of things here for me, and I'm not defending them, but it's a lot easier to piss people off these days and for them to be vocal about it. The amount of Twitter handles with 'hashtag <insert owner here> out' is getting crazy. Nearly always because results on the pitch aren't going to plan. Which is my second point, in that usually recruitment has gone wrong when you start losing football matches. Where we differ is we have genuine issues to be focusing on that are different to what might be going on elsewhere, which is more about frustration with the model. Although those closer and more inclined to search the internet might share different stories.
Thomas Edison, James Dyson and JK Rowling were all supposedly told they didn't know what they were doing and look how that turned out. Without all the facts its hard to come to a conclusion about our board's skill set and as with most things in life I doubt we will ever know. Maybe they are still drawing cards from the deck and haven't got the hand they want to show yet. Do I want to see improvements, you bet I do but not at the expense of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
For me, I'm not on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc etc. I only take my information relating to those sites from here. This particular tweet spoke to me as an alignment with our current situation. It doesn't sound like their fans are being over the top when recruitment and 'sports choices' are cited as reasons for their discontent; we know ourselves how the same owners make us feel very similar.