This thing at Garrison on Tuesday...

Why so ?' Luke has gone out of his way not to criticise people on bbs ' unfortunately its not been reciprocated on here' there are people on here that can't resist making sarcastic comments aimed to humiliate and ridicule' we're all on the same side here...

 

Please don't tie the BBS into the ST Group. That would be inaccurate as well as unfortunate. Your link between this issue and Brexit? A tad weird that.

The worst though is the slur in your first line. That can't go unmentioned. I might have my issues with the ST but to equate them with the Labour Party is a disgrace.

 

What issues?

On your substantive question. Mt earlier post tried to set out what I thought was the position of the Trust re the current ownership. I said:

"I understand it is the case that the ST do not want the owners removed, and subsequently do not want to lead or be involved in a campaign with anyone (the FB group or anyone else), to seek their removal. That position may change in time but it hasn't yet."

If that isn't the position of the ST, can you tell me what it is. Not being funny here (and this forum - rather than discussing over a pint does make it harder to communicate) but could you just set it out clearly - and just in relation to the question - not the plethora of wider issue. Cheers

 

I'm not ridiculing him.

I want to know why he's stated categorically that a buyer is in place, when he's provided no evidence and just set up (or heads) a FB group that so far has been encouraged a protest that then turned ugly - although he has distanced himself from Saturday, in a fashion.

 

He obviously believes that the prospective buyers are genuine or he wouldn't put himself on offer' whether they are or not we don't know of course but i certainly think Luke believes it 100%' as for saturday the fans are very angry atm and very rightly so because the lack of communication from the board has created a toxic atmosphere and it was bound to happen...

 

It wasnt 'bound to happen'. I'm angry at The Board, but I didn't chuck beer on Beth or wang my seat at a steward. You're just providing justification for mindless vandalism.

And as for Luke having proof of these funds? Show the relevant people. If new owners are there want to make an offer then crack on.

 

FFS
My observation and questions for the prospective buyers. If they exist.
Have you approached the club directly. And questioned if it would be looked at given they said they would leave if not wanted.
If yes is the answer then why all the upheaval.
If no. Then wtf. Get on with it.

 

Loko how many members does the Supporters Trust have? Just trying to build a picture of roughly how many are affiliated to neither group.

 

"Out of his way" you say? He's not only a moderator of the FB page, but he's actively liked anti-BBS posts that have been made on it.

As someone who doesn't know him in the slightest, but who has an interest in the aims of anyone wishing to work towards new ownership of the club, it's exactly this type of two-facedness that gives me cause to question exactly what he's trying to achieve, by making public statements of unity and taking an active part in spreading the type of dis-unity that you're complaining about.

The Conway Out group has increasingly become something that he's the sole voice of, rather than the 'group of local businessmen' that it was set up to be. Last night was supposed to shed more light on that, but ultimately proved to be the views of a single person being expressed, albeit in a way which showed he'd spent a lot of time and effort in preparing to do so. However, it's still very much a sole voice that we're hearing from it.

 

Forgive me but that's not an answer to what was a simple proposition. I set out what I thought was the line of the Trust in relation to their position on the current ownership. That being:

"I understand it is the case that the ST do not want the owners removed, and subsequently do not want to lead or be involved in a campaign with anyone (the FB group or anyone else), to seek their removal. That position may change in time but it hasn't yet."

What I take from your answer is either a) yes that is the position or b) That is our position but we reserve the right to change it or c) we do not see it as our role/place to take a position on the owners - these or any others - so we will not be doing so.

What is behind me trying to understand the position of the ST is simply this. Many other football club's Supporters Trusts have been at the forefront of campaigns/protests to remove Owners who they think are damaging their Club. I think BFC are in that situation. So is it worthwhile me, or anyone else, getting involved in the Trust to try to persuade others that we are facing a meltdown and we should show some leadership in doing something about it. Without that, the only game in Town at the moment are those who roughly align themselves with the objectives of the FB group.

On a related point could you give me an indication of the size of the Membership of the Trust? Cheers.

 

Would still be nice to know a rough figure and what it was at its highest.

 

Dont take it as me having a go just interested if you knew the figure. Thats all simples.

 

Understand your frustrations but why in the name of all that is holy didn't anyone politely put their hand up at the end and say 'Thanks for that Luke, pal. But now to address the elephant in the room... Is there a buyer waiting in the wings or not?' Isn't that the whole reason why people turned up in the first place? I get that Luke may have missed a trick, but we don't know the full story - perhaps the CEO wanted to be there in an observatory capacity only. And maybe Luke got a bit lost in the presentation and forgot to do a quick q&a. But I'd argue those in attendance missed an opportunity by failing to ask the glaringly obvious question of the head of the Facebook Group, with the CEO and other club employees in attendance. Even if he said something like 'there were rumours initially of a buyer, but this has proven to be a dead end' at least would let fans know the position in that regard..

Credit to Luke for standing up and doing that. Perhaps not the best method but he obviously cares a great deal, is sticking to his views, and is doing his best. If I were him I'd shut down the Facebook group completely and create a website for people to sign up to (a simple wordpress or something). Get the adults back in the room so to speak. Also, people criticising his career abilities (acting) is just pathetic.

Again Fonzie (and for anyone else who went), why wasn't the question put to him?

 

Cheers Loko.