Poya. Worst Barnsley manager of all time

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Redhelen, Feb 2, 2022.

  1. TonyTyke

    TonyTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    3,263
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think of Brian Clough at times like this and partially agree. Words to the effect of when you sack a manager, the chairman that employed him should also be sacked. I only partially agree with that, but these owners have had two strikes* on their last two choices.

    * More strikes than an entire team :)
     
    Kettlewell and Redhelen like this.
  2. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,636
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I don't think we have improved defensively personally, despite him saying that was his starting point. And he didn't give Sibbick a chance to see how he could play in a game.
     
    Kettlewell, SFOTyke and Exile like this.
  3. budmustang

    budmustang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Messages:
    5,593
    Likes Received:
    3,048
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Adelaide, SA
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    I do think he got it more or less right tonight. After months of playing with a weak midfield he finally played Styles, Gomes, Benson, Quina and Vita in the middle and it showed. He's not a lucky manager though. A sucker punch goal to concede, some poor finishing and a perfectly good goal ruled out.

    I've been giving Poya some slack due to the cards he has been dealt, a midfield that gave the ball away every single time (how do you prepare for professionals doing that?) and the players that have been unavailable. We can see what he's like now. The new lads look promising. Can he change things around?
     
    scarf likes this.
  4. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,636
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We've two new players to
    Knock the stuffing out of!
     
  5. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,636
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If he can't change it round against the worst team to visit Oakwell this season, then no.
     
    Kettlewell, Jamo and Exile like this.
  6. Gally

    Gally Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    17,040
    Likes Received:
    12,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    York
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Was going to be 7th but one of the owners had to pull out so now the window has closed they'll sort out a new date.
     
  7. Redarmy87

    Redarmy87 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2018
    Messages:
    4,917
    Likes Received:
    6,857
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Will it be with all the owners (or Conway and some board members) then?
     
  8. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    21,160
    Likes Received:
    14,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Stanley,Wakefield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Bring Val back now.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  9. Gally

    Gally Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    17,040
    Likes Received:
    12,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    York
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    TO be confirmed
     
    Redarmy87 likes this.
  10. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Messages:
    8,194
    Likes Received:
    12,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No point sacking him now. But maybe switch him to assistant or u23s coach and put Devaney in charge. Most important thing now is to manage the development of marsh, ackroyd, Wolfe and any others that might come through.

    Never known a season like it. Has the club got a single thing right?
     
  11. wolvestyke

    wolvestyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    3,300
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Genuine question Gally - do you think they are attaching the importance to this that they should be if a date hasn't even been agreed yet?
     
  12. Exi

    Exile Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Messages:
    5,813
    Likes Received:
    6,717
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I'd like to know the total cost of the payment to Hartberg to release Schopp, Schopp's salary, Schopp's pay-off, the payment to the Swedish FA to release Poya, Poya's salary and the inevitable Poya pay-off whether it be now or at the end of the season (I'd leave it until then just through resigned apathy at our fate this season and no faith in the owners to make the right choice next time).

    I'm pretty darned sure that when you add all that little lot up it would dwarf the cost of bringing in a Ryan Lowe or Neil Critchley type of manager who knows the English game.

    I'm too tired and angry to go into the detail that I'd like to on the player analogy but suffice it to say that this false economy is BFC under this lot of owners in a microcosm. The dogmatic spreadsheet approach that results in multiple Patrick Schmidt 'punts' is at least as costly and probably much more so than a couple of decent experienced players who can cut it at this level - and infinitely less effective.

    We have to get back to a blend of our own youngsters (the Watson, Eaden, Liddell, Jones and Moses of the promotion team for example), some determined lower division talent (the Davis, Sheridan, Bullock, Appleby group), combined with a few players at or near the peak of their talents (the De Zeeuw, Redfearn, Marcelle and Bozancics) and some still hungry experienced campaigners to glue it all together (Thompson, Wilkinson, Hendrie).

    It makes me sick to think that even if we were offered the modern-day equivalent of Tommo, Wilko and Super John on frees and with affordable salaries we'd turn them down due to the owners' idiotic metrics. Bottom line for me is that we have to get back to building a team and not a Poundland trading post.
     
  13. arp

    arpete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,441
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    educating the masses
    Location:
    barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    What worried me was our previous coaches(except Schopp) were up and down encouraging the lads whilst Ashbagi stood there impassive in complete contrast to Stendel and Ishmael who kicked every ball and showed passion. It isn't inspiring to fans and players I suspect. FFS man show us some passion and desire to win!!
     
    Indie Red and Gravy Chips like this.
  14. Voi

    Voice of Reason Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2016
    Messages:
    1,691
    Likes Received:
    2,468
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We probably need a minimum of 10 wins in 18 games. We've won one in the last 26. Can we stay up? Surely nobody believes we can.
     
  15. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Messages:
    17,458
    Likes Received:
    17,162
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The littlest hobo
    Location:
    Leeds, United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If?
     
    Redarmy87 likes this.
  16. Gravy Chips

    Gravy Chips Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    2,408
    Likes Received:
    5,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Web Designer
    Location:
    Tarn Centre
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I said this watching the game. You could be the most intelligent football manager on Earth, but if you can't inspire the players it's an uphill battle.
     
  17. Tyke_67

    Tyke_67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Messages:
    14,968
    Likes Received:
    20,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Get Val back.

    Save Our Season.
     
  18. Wuz1964

    Wuz1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    1,298
    Likes Received:
    1,293
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That's cos he allus said "yes" o_O
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  19. Marc

    Marc Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Messages:
    28,398
    Likes Received:
    23,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Don’t think he would personally
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  20. BarTyke

    BarTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,076
    Likes Received:
    1,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Stokesley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If no Val it has to be Colin and NOW.

    As it should have been when Schlopp left.
     
    Redhelen likes this.

Share This Page