Another medical emergency ...

I agree. Get a large crowd of people (5k to 75k) together for 2 to 3hrs often in very cold conditions and it not surprising that occasionally someone falls ill. In the past these effects were effectively dealt with and 99.9% would be unaware of it.
I wouldn’t say there was a pretence that it wasn’t happening, rather a tendency to over react these days. By all means stop the game if it in anyway helps the chances of their survival like in the air ambulance situation a Oakwell.

 

Why is it getting swept under the rug? They're being reported aren't they? As has been said many times, the game gets stopped now when it didn't previously so attention is drawn to things which would have previously gone unreported.

Based on some *** packet maths using average attendances, you're going to have between 250k and 300k people, majority men, a decent proportion elderly and/or out of shape attending football league games on a weekend. Throw in the cold and the stress and it doesn't seem crazy that there might be a very small number of medical emergencies.

But of course you'd prefer to **** yourself into a sensationalist frenzy insinuating it might be the vaccine. Posting condolences for the bloke who died despite your obvious priapic glee at every collapse allowing you another opportunity to indulge in baseless speculation about people's health issues just makes you look like a tasteless hypocrite.

 

I've been going to oakwell for around 25-30 years and I reckon in that time I've seen or heard of someone collapsing or having what looked like a serious incident about 10-15 times. Obviously we all remember Steve's incident and the fan near the end of the Derby game I think it was in the ponty end but there have been many others where people have posted on here after the game 'did anyone see the fan who collapsed...' or 'anyone know how the man that collapsed at half time is doing' etc. I've also seen quite a few on stretchers getting wheeled into the medical room under the stand.

I wonder whether one of the reasons we are having games delayed more is that people don't tend to be spending as much time in concourses as they used to. I can only say what I see myself but the concourses aren't as full as they were, people seem to be staying in the open air seating area.
If a fan collapsed at half time before it was hidden away under the stand. Now it's in view of the pitch.

 

This with bells on.

And more bells.

 

Le Tissier tweeted about the latest two last night.

 

Completely agree, but let’s not spoil facts by posting reports by nutters on YouTube.

Here is a Guardian report saying that heart attacks are increasing for young athletes…. Something that our anti vax friends are very vocal about… unfortunately for them the article was published in 2018…. Not sure how many had the vaccine then?

https://amp.theguardian.com/science...of-heart-problems-than-thought-fa-study-finds

Some people need a lesson in correlation and causation…..

 

Wonder if it would be possible for some jouro to do an FOI for accident/incident log books from grounds and compare the rates at which incidents are being recorded over the past 20 years.

 

Maybe, but I’m also guessing the strictness of noting down incidents has been improved in later years than it was 20 or so years ago.

 

Huge numbers of overweight unfit people, with bad diets and little exercise.
Added with the relatively new procedure of stopping the game.
I wouldn't imagine Covid has had much bearing on the numbers of medical emergencies at sporting events.

 

I'd say that if there has been such a dramatic rise in medical emergencies at football matches due to covid to the extent that people are suggesting then that should be reflected in a sharp rise in medical emergencies in every day life yet people aren't regularly reporting ambulances being rushed to their workplaces or to Tesco and Asda.

 

Exactly, if the games weren't getting stop we would continue to live in ignorance of these kind of events.

 

I've been inclined to believe that there hasn't been a rise in medical emergencies at football games, rather there's been a rise in medical emergencies being reported and games being stopped when they occur.

But I now think I've been naive. The number of medical screenings and health checks carried out over the last couple of years has fallen off a cliff. They didn't used to be done for fun, they saved lives. Those lives are no longer being saved.

 

Years ago. People were whisked onto stretchers and back into the concourse and the game continued and nobody batted an eyelid until after the game. Then word would pass of whether the person pulled through. It's media coverage and compassion that gets the games stopped.

20 years ago the Barnsley game v Burton wouldn't have been cancelled.

 

The difference now is the games are stopped.

I’ve seen paramedics treat people in the past at Oakwell & the game carried on

 

You're both shameless.

 

Definitely.
Same reason as those who claim that it's not safe to walk the streets like it used to be in the olden days.....

 

Rubbish. What proportion of football attending fans have been hospitalised by covid, never mind "come out with heart damage" and then had a related incident attending a match. Infinately small I would say. These incident have always occurred, it' just that there's more reporting / coverage these days.

 

Steady on... I said it's more likely to be actual covid related complications rather than the Covid jab, which it is. This was in response to the OP eluding that these incidents are because the population is frequently keeling over due to a vaccination.

FYI, I agree with you.

 

This is the nub of it Jay - 50% less heart attack A&E cases reported since COVID started. Heart disease deaths are soring as a result, so it would make sense.

 

Hope they get well soon and everything is OK.