Poya

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  1. wolvestyke

    wolvestyke Well-Known Member

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    Irrespective of whatever criterion you use to judge him Poya is clearly not succeeding at the moment but I don't blame him as I'm sure he's doing his best. But we surely have to question KEA's role in appointing him. I'm pretty sure he said that he led the recruitment process and so is responsible. His first 6 months in the role have been little short of disastrous imo.
     
  2. On yer tyke

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    I wanted Schopp to be replaced.

    But if we knew this coach and his football was going to be his replacement then I would’ve been Schopp’s biggest fan. I struggle to point where we’ve improved under this man.
     
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  3. Dalestykes

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    Serously!!

    “Mr Poya we’d like to give you £400k per year and all you have to do is take the flak for us.”
    “No thanks. I’ll keep my £20k a year running the Swedish Under 11s”

    Gone far in your chosen Career have you?
     
  4. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how far he'll be going with his career after his deficiences have been shown up tbh.
     
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  5. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I hope you were fishing for bites with that post. The fact is this team less 2 players finished 5th last season
    Poya is averaging less than half a point per game and scoring less than half a goal per game. The players have no movement up front and don’t look remotely like scoring unless the opposition gifts Morris a chance (Luton) or we score a freak screamer like against QPR

    I’ve watched us for over 50 years and always thought McSeveney and Spackman were impossible to be made to look half decent. Poya is a level below. I don’t see a hope of us coming back up next season if he is still here
     
  6. SFOTyke

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    23rd, I believe, which we remained on for a while, thanks mainly to our relegation partners, before dropping to 24th in January, where we have steadfastly remained.
     
  7. Tyke_67

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    Sorry mate, but no way is Poya on £400k p.a.
     
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    There's no doubt in my mind the buck stop with the board with how the club's run. They're in charge and can't delegate responsibility elsewhere. However, Poya is the Head Coach, has us playing awful, negative football and his record is truly dreadful, which means, in my opinion, he cannot avoid criticism.
    If others think he's doing a good job, fair enough. If others believe the board are doing well, again fair enough. I'm not changing my opinions, nor am I criticising others for simply holding a different viewpoint to me and I definitely won't be dishing out personal abuse to them, either.
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  9. Shy Talk

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    Obscene wages that Head Coaches get paid? £1.2m? If that's the price of a Josh Benson, a Herbie Kane or a Chris Wilder - well I know where my 1.2 would go if I had it.
     
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    Yep we certainly had a coach last year that could get a tune out of these players.
     
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  11. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I don't believe we paid anywhere near that for either of the players mentioned.

    Not certain but don't think we've ever paid a manager more than £500k a year, and Chris Wilder wasn't the one on £1.2m in wages. He wouldn't even be interviewed for the job.
     
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    Probably his wage demands that made him stand out.
     
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    Today was absolutely turgid.

    I wanted us to build on the win last weekend and try to put a mini run together, if possible. I feel a bit stupid now because we’ve no chance of putting anything together. Granted, we were missing Woodrow, Iseka and Adeboyejo today but we never looked like scoring. We’d still not have scored if we were playing until now, even if the Coventry players had gone home!

    I don’t want Poya next season in league 1. We need someone fresh to come in and go at teams again. Like the Stendel impact.
     
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    has he told them not to cross the ball in from wide too. 100 chances to do so today but we kept cutting back and playing a short ball.

    it’s almost as if last week wasn’t supposed to happen and we have had to stop shooting and crossing again
     
  15. Gol

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    seriously. You just said he didn’t choose to be employed by us, to which I replied no he had the option to walk away.

    Well seeing as you’ve brought it up, I actually have the majority of his qualifications apart from I completed all mine before the age of 19. He’s come through the ranks in Sweden, the equivalent of our league 2 and he wasn’t particularly great over there either.

    I 100% agree that 80% of the issue is the owners but the on field performances do not lie.
     
  16. Exi

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    I can't believe I've got home and the out-of-his-depth PE Teacher is still in a job - just shows how little this Board know about football or care about this club. Thought I might have calmed down a bit four hours later but I'm still seething at him ineptly throwing a point away by bringing Moon on.

    Printable thoughts?

    First Half - After 20 minutes we just looked at each other and said, right going for a 0-0 then mate. I just thought, wow, and people criticised (wrongly imho) Val-ball but this guy's tactics and super-dullness make Mr Ismael seem like Rinus Michels and his mid-70s Dutch Total Football teams by comparison.

    Half-Time - Ok, we've done alright at the back. Andersen and Helik have done well and Williams probably my player of the half with that little bit of pace helping complement the other two. We haven't looked like scoring in a month of Sundays but have kept an insipid Cov team down to one meaningful shot.

    Second Half- Has the PE Teacher injected them with Temazepam at half-time? Awful slow, slow start and Cov have clearly changed tactics to make sure they've got the widest player on each flank. Asbaghi does nothing to change things tactically and Cov build up periods of pressure, thankfully interspersed with a number of injuries to give us some respite. Midfield is non-existent and when we do get the ball we invariably give it away. However, the back three have been impressive and, with a few scares, have dealt with the most dangerous threats and kept Cov down to, again, only one serious goal threat. Gyokeres and Waghorn have been well handled by Helik, Williams and Andersen. That at least should help us realise the 0-0 our coach came for.

    But wait, no! Brittain has to come off from RWB injured and instead of replacing him positionally (we were told officially in a club press briefing that Hondermarck has been converted to a RWB) the clueless clown dismantles the whole defence, takes down the only thing that has been good for us today, namely that Andersen-Helik-Williams axis and blows his only chance of obtaining his goal of a 0-0. Instead of 'fixing' the one thing that was broken, in destabilising-ly wrenching the hitherto really good Williams out of the heart of defence and replacing him there with Moon, he breaks two more as well!

    The goal was always going to come because of PA's self-inflicted tearing down of our structure at the back, we never felt as secure after those changes even before the equally out of his depth Moon made the error. Coaches who even vaguely know what they are doing simply don't make such absolute basic blunders as dismantling the one thing that was working for you. Asbaghi might as well have got some wrapping paper and put the points in a box and handed them over to Robins as a present.

    Inept. Interminably dull and inept.
     
  17. SFOTyke

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    The thing that got me about last week, was not only that we won, but we were attempting shots from everywhere. Many different players were trying their luck. I thought we'd changed our approach, but this week it was back to negative short sideward / backwards passes, with no one taking control and having a go.
     
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    The quality of the Swedish leagues - Irrelevant
    People's differing opinions on the definition of success - Irrelevant
    Interpretation of bizarre 'not troubling the keeper' comments - Irrelevant
    Making fun of his name - Distasteful and childish
    Saturday's 'performance' - VERY RELEVANT

    A week ago we saw what could have been. What could be. If Poya reverts to that mentality I'm behind him. If he continues with yesterday's defeatist negative self deterministic tactics, I cannot. Can he admit he got it wrong and never do that again?
     
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    Did Poya change tactic against qpr or did the players think **** it and take it upon themselves to shoot on sight.

    seems odd he would get success playing a new way only to revert back a week later when we desperate for points
     
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    If Poya is our manager the start of next season I think attendances will be at their lowest levels since promotion season to the Premier League under Wilson. Real attendances are already way down on any season you could mention in the second flight since then.

    People come to a football match to be entertained & to see goals & passion. There is as much passion in this team as there is in a dead fish.

    People can argue as much as they want about his previous record, The football is turgid.
     

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