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Hang on… I said a joke once about Hourihane and Hammill (they’re both very similar aged to me so hopefully not too creepy). I may have also posted that Dike has a nice voice as I like his accent but that’s not specific to him as anyone with his accent has a nice voice. I’m not sure how that’s ‘for years’ and ‘putting it mildly’. Any posts would also have been within a thread discussing said players’ looks that was started by a man (e.g. team full of pretty boys thread).

 

Sorry Jamdrop I genuinely thought you'd commented about Hourihane quite a few times over the years. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else completely or I could just have completely imagined it.

 

To answer the question in the OP. I’m not sure whether there is any advantage for males over females in this sport or not but they play a different number of ends so possibly.

I quite like it being split as I think it helps women be guaranteed a chance to compete at the top level. I may be completely wrong but I’d worry that it would otherwise end up being a mainly male oriented sport, regardless of ability. Taking it right back to starting as kids even, girls are less likely to join a mixed sports team and parents may be less likely to take their daughters to practices that include boys. I think that they’d be more open to them doing an all girls activity after school/on a weekend than they would with them doing a mixed one. I could be wrong but that’s just the impression I get. Thinking of what I know about school clubs, however many boys or girls were already at the club may also determine how many new boys or girls would join that specific club.

 

That'd be me who has always lusted after Conor!

 

I do not think it is remotely sexist to argue that a woman racing in F1 is highly unlikely. A role in F1 say as test driver and developing a car is feasible but the physical demands of driving a full season racing would make them uncompetitive alongside men. You you have to look at the training regimes of F1 drivers to realise that 99% of men would not be able to compete. Most sports requiring high levels of physicality means segregation . Comparing, rally driving as Donny Red has against the physical demands of F1 does not take into account the demands on the body of extreme G forces and heat. Whilst you can argue there are women fighter pilots the sustained nature of continuous exposure to extreme G forces for the duration of an F1 race makes driving an F1 car more physically demanding than flying a modern fighter.

 

You're allowed to find men attractive and you're allowed to say so. I'm not saying you have overtly done so, but you don't have to defend yourself even if you have. Whether you have or you haven't, Supertyke wasn't having a go at you, he just used it as an example. It probably wasn't well judged, but he didn't mean to have a go at you. Far be it from me to defend him, I take pot shots at him all the time, but in this case he didn't mean any offence. I'm sticking my nose it where it doesn't belong because he mentioned me when he said it.

It's a very good point and you're probably right. I would just have loved to see the 'skip' (hate that phrase) of both the men's and women's team in the same team because the two of them were outstanding.

 

But only one could be skip?

In the mixed doubles it was Bruce and Jen Dodds.

 

The rule at my infant/junior school was that whoever brought the ball made the rules at break and dinner. And when I brought the ball, the girls and the boys played football together. The twins, Amanda and Victoria, Eleanor... I left that junior school in 1983 having walked up to it from the council estate in Darton West, where the prefab houses with tin roofs are still stood. The girls and the boys played football together in the 70s and 80s in my school. And I stood up to every single bit of prejudice that tried to stop that. I don't think I've ever left the house without comment about my sexuality or how effeminate I look. But Barnsley runs through my veins, it's mine, I belong to it and it belongs to me.

Your words don't offend me because I know they're fake, I know you're a tourist, I know you have no understanding, you just want to be fashionable. I know your words are worthless. And I know I can look in the mirror and what I see is real. And you will never see that.

 

That's a very good point. It might not be such a big problem in GB, but in some countries women would never get anywhere near the Olympic team otherwise.

 

This thread is peak BBS.

 

Best thread we've had on here in ages.

 

This is going up on my wall next to my "Live, Laugh, Love" poster.

 

I disagree, motorsport’s successful drivers aren’t big blokes, it’s a stamina rather than strength sport, and women IMHO compete very well against men on that level.
See my details re rally drivers, which is physically more demanding than roundy roundy racing.
As I posted previously, I think it’ll take one exceptional talent to break through and then a mixed sex grid will become the norm.

 

You need unbelievable strength to withstand the G's of an F1 car, so that's not true I'm afraid. That's not to say women aren't capable of driving one, though. Strength and stamina both necessary.

 

It’s better than that. This thread has turned posting into an Olympic Sport.

“Well Jeff some of the best posting I’ve seen in a very long time. We’ve got some real pros here and they're giving it everything – taking offense, going off on one, getting the hump about posts they’ve imagined, posts you can barely understand. As it stands, we’ve got Jay, Red Helen and Red Taff in the medal positions but as we know anything can happen and probably will.

 

It’s not ‘unbelievable’ though is it. It’s measurable and it’s predictable.
If F1 was a ‘strength’ sport, the best drivers would be massive, but they’re not, they’re below average size for males.

I’m not saying they don’t need to be strong, just that it’s not that simple. Also, hate to be the one to point this out, but by weight, women naturally tend to have better upper body strength than men.
Just take the kids to the monkey bars in the park and watch who gets good quickest from the boys and girls.

 

I think you need to do a bit of research into the level of G force an F1 driver is subjected to. Their neck and arm muscles need to be very strong to deal with it. It isn't the same as rally driving as you compared it to initially.

 

I think you need to see what I posted about upper body strength, it’s not about being macho, women naturally have better upper body strength than men, that’s a fact. And F1 drivers are not big powerful men, they’re small compact strong blokes, there’s absolutely nothing to stop a female with the same training regime achieving the same. In fact I’d argue they have a head start.
But then I’m just a dad of boys and girls, I’ve got no macho credentials to polish, I’m just looking at this from a factual basis.

 

I think we will have to agree to disagree. Your claim that women have greater upper body strength than men is utter nonsense. Try googling and reading the facts. Also F1 drivers are more than just "small compact strong blokes". Years ago BBC Ran a a series..(think it was called superstars or something like that) where top sportsmen from different sports competed against one another in various challenges... Both strength and endurance. F1 drivers always triumphed. Also in no way is Rally driving physically more demanding. G forces require huge strength in neck arms and shoulders. Braking requires high levels of leg strength and even keeping your foot on the pedals. Just one example... If you consider 5G lateral on a long corner or braking from 200mph to about 40 mph in about 100metres and if your head and helmet weigh over 1 stone then you are subjecting your neck muscles to 5 stone load to keep you head up. You and I would probably manage about 2 laps before our neck muscles gave out without serious fitness training. You persist in posting inaccurate statements purporting them to be facts and posting on topics you clearly have little knowledge or interest in . You are a WUM .


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