Russia invades Ukraine

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  1. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    Still too young to die because of a War going off at the other side of the World.
     
    Stephen Dawson, Feb 28, 2022
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    You'll forgive me, but I don't recognise how you're summarising history. Tyrants don't value life. If you're a pacifist, a rebel, a sympathiser... your life is immaterial to a tyrant.

    We don't know if Putin will launch nuclear missiles. He's shown little guilt in using chemical weapons. Or poisoning opponents on foreign soil. Or shooting people in cold blood in his own country.

    Letting him do whatever he wants will only embolden him.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild, Feb 28, 2022
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    Another one...

     
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  4. Stephen Dawson

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    This embarrassment for Russia doesn't do them much favours though. There's no way they'll win this conflict even if they kill the full 150,000 Russian soldiers and steal all their tanks. Just poking an angry wasps nest more.
     
    Stephen Dawson, Feb 28, 2022
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    **** off, coward.
     
    Skryptic, Feb 28, 2022
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    I find it really really sad that you have this perspective. Thank **** the Ukrainians have more backbone than you.
     
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    Understandably you don’t understand the depth of hatred toward Russian regimes in Eastern Europe. In areas were the Nazis and Soviets were present in Poland in 1939 many said they’d rather have the Germans than the Russians.

    “The Germans will take our freedom - the Russians will take our soul.”

    The Ukrainians know if they give in the nightmare will begin. The Baltic states and Poland chose NATO for very good reasons. If you’d live there, you’d have been begging your country to join NATO.
     
    StatisTYKE, Feb 28, 2022
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    Quantative Easing
     
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  9. Stephen Dawson

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    Cheers. I actually feel genuine dread.
     
    Stephen Dawson, Feb 28, 2022
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    Well yeah. But that brings its own issues.
     
    Mido, Feb 28, 2022
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    I can see Vlad being a novijok job if these sanctions start to threaten the powerful Russian billionaires' lets hope so..
     
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  12. Stephen Dawson

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    Probably. However, I'm just a civilian at the end of the day whose fearful for their families mortality. Not a warmonger without thought for ramifications.
     
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    That's how dictators and megalomaniacs work, just ignore it and they carry on.
     
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    Human life is invaluable, on both sides. Look at WW1 for senseless loss of life. Calling @Stephen Dawson a coward isn't fair, he's only exploring ways on here of resolving the situation which surely has to be in everyone's interests?
     
    Redhelen, Feb 28, 2022
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    There are also 2 sides of the story where we will get biased information of events.
    A little bit like the news coverage when we were fighting against pit closures.
     
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    I was kind of being sarcastic. Undoubtedly that's what they'll do, but it's a made-up phrase that just means they're going to print money, like we did. And the danger then is that we really do create the conditions that were created in a Post WWI Germany. The potential for inflation to spiral out of control when it's already spiralling barely in control must be huge.
     
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    And in know way am I supporting Putin before anyone piles on.
     
    Bazza, Feb 28, 2022
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    I don't agree with SD's stance on this and favour the actions the civilised world is currently taking.
    However, this is an issue where nobody has the definitive right answer so I, for one, am not going to criticise anyone's standpoint.
     
    churtonred, Feb 28, 2022
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    You signed up for the International Brigade then?
     
    Watcher_Of_The_Skies, Feb 28, 2022
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    Ways of resolving the situation such as total capitulation. I'm not sure that's really a feasible suggestion. Moreover I find the notion that we'd trade the lives and feedoms of Ukrainian citizens for our own safety beyond contemptible. Almost as contemptible as the suggestion we antagonised Russia into this action, or even more obscenely that we were responsible for the actions of Nazi Germany.
     
    Skryptic, Feb 28, 2022
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