First test vs West Indies

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  1. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Likely starting 11

    Crawley
    Lees
    Root
    Lawrence
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Foakes
    Woakes
    Overton
    Leach
    Wood


    I know the Windies.aren't the toughest test nation however I'm struggling to see our bowling line up taking 20 wickets in the match. (Especially with dropping Anderson and Broad and Robinson injured)
     
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  2. x11barnsley

    x11barnsley Well-Known Member

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    Agree with likely team except Stokes may be above Bairstow.

    The only contention is whether to play Mahmood instead of Leach but I think we’ve got to have a proper spinner.

    It will be a shame seeing Woakes and Overton open the bowling when , we’ve the likes of Broad, Anderson, Robinson and Archer not or unable to play.

    As you say, it seems unlikely we can bowl them out twice on their own ground.
    Wood needs to keep fit for certain !
     
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    I cannot believe we are planning on going into the first test of an away series with that bowling lineup. Only Wood deserves his spot. Lessons clearly haven't beed learned.

    I can accept them dropping Broad and Anderson to give young lads a go, but to replace them with Woakes and Overton is unfathomable.
     
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    If you're a bowler and you want to impress the England selectors, don't work on your pace, accuracy or skills.

    Work on your batting.
     
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    Windies widely available around 2/1. Bet what you can afford*

    *keep an eye on weather forecasts.
     
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    Is Stokes playing as a batsman only?
    Reason I ask, I have seen talk of Mahmood, but we would be pace-heavy if Stokes is actually bowling.
     
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    Wouldn't surprise me, Root seems to fancy himself over Leach as a bowler. Which begs the question of why even take Parkinson if he's below Leach in the pecking order.
     
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    He's blossomed as a very capable drinks carrier...
     
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    We must have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to spinners, when we can disregard someone with an FC average of less than 24. Yet, if the selectors thought he could score 15-20, he'd walk into the team.
     
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  10. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    As Burns replacement.
     
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    When was the last time we had flamboyant attacking openers with a half decent technique? Trescothick and Strauss? We always seem to have one extreme or the other since them. We get Keaton Jennings who had the shots but no defence. Then we have the other extreme. Stoneman, Hameed, Burns and Sibley who take half the day to get 12.
     
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    Cook wasn"t too bad , in fact he has never been replaced & he was flamboyant with an excellent technique
     
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    Yes. I forgot about Cook. Very understated.
     
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    Is it on Sky or BT?

    Yes I could Google it, but I can't be arsed.
     
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    It's on BT Sport
     
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  16. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    Crap. Another waste of snap n' bacca.
     
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    FFS.

    Cheers pal.
     
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  18. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Just thinking of some bad bowlers over the years for England given our current expected line up for tomorrow.

    Here's a few.

    Martin McCague

    Norman Cowans

    Derek Pringle

    Phil Defeitas

    Simon Kerrigan

    Chris Silverwood

    Samit Patel

    Ian Salisbury
     
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    I loved Norman Cowans, he was superb for a couple of seasons but hampered by Injuries . Phil DeFraitas was a good all round cricketer. The rest were pap.
     
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  20. x11barnsley

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    Patel was always a very good spinner and a fast scoring batsman… ideal for limited over cricket but he refused to lose weight.

    He is still plying his trade globally in other countries and getting well paid.

    Can I add Dernbach to your list ?
     
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