Can’t see this anywhere. Barnsley report Reading to EFL?

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Loko the Tyke, Mar 7, 2022.

Page 1 of 8
  1. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Can’t find the full article as it was on the Athletic subscription.

    What’s occurring? Or is it an old story?

     
    Loko the Tyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #1
  2. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Loko the Tyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #2
  3. Tyke_67

    Tyke_67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Messages:
    14,972
    Likes Received:
    20,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Tyke_67, Mar 7, 2022
    #3
    Loko the Tyke likes this.
  4. YT

    YT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2020
    Messages:
    4,702
    Likes Received:
    18,613
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    They’re only about £200,000,000 in debt. It’s fine.
     
    YT, Mar 7, 2022
    #4
    thetykester, JamieBreweryStander, Dub-Tyke and 5 others like this.
  5. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The sympathy given to them in that article above is really, really poor.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #5
    BBBFC likes this.
  6. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Getting a bit fed up with all the reports of threatened legal action, do we ever actually take any?
     
    Redhelen, Mar 7, 2022
    #6
    DannyWilsonLovechild likes this.
  7. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    9,564
    Likes Received:
    7,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    lk311, Mar 7, 2022
    #7
    Redhelen likes this.
  8. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    9,564
    Likes Received:
    7,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thing is Helen, these sort of things can galvanise the Reading players, which if they went on a run of results could backfire on us.
     
    lk311, Mar 7, 2022
    #8
    Kettlewell and Redhelen like this.
  9. Tyke_67

    Tyke_67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Messages:
    14,972
    Likes Received:
    20,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    but they can't can they, because they're already in trouble with the EFL.....:):)
     
    Tyke_67, Mar 7, 2022
    #9
    Redhelen likes this.
  10. NathanBFC94

    NathanBFC94 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2016
    Messages:
    3,863
    Likes Received:
    4,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Langold
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Wish we wouldn't do stuff like this. Is this is what it has come to that we have to just try and grass teams up to EFL to stay up.
     
    NathanBFC94, Mar 7, 2022
    #10
    Stephen Dawson, Wuz1964, DannyWilsonLovechild and 2 others like this.
  11. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Messages:
    8,194
    Likes Received:
    12,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I suppose the headlines make it look more interesting than "Barnsley write to the EFL".

    Wasting our time though. Their 6 point deduction relates to what they did in previous seasons, as does Derby's 9 points. So we can't have our cake and eat it.

    Until there's a real time monitoring and enforcement of FFP, or at least same season monitoring, then this will keep happening.
     
    leythtyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #11
    Kettlewell, Stephen Dawson and Redhelen like this.
  12. Red

    RedVesp Guest

    Can we even afford more legal action?

    We're going to get to a point where legal costs start to outstrip players wages...
     
    RedVesp, Mar 7, 2022
    #12
    Stephen Dawson, Redhelen and DannyWilsonLovechild like this.
  13. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Interestingly, I wish we'd do more of it. The only concern is the cost of legal action to a club like ours with so little money, but the rules around financial fair play are wrong. If clubs trying to stay within the rules were less passive, and I don't just mean us, then maybe football wouldn't have turned in to the monster it has become.

    I doubt this will do anything but it makes total sense to be following Wycombe's lead.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #13
    Kettlewell, Stephen Dawson, ronnieGlavinsB@stardSon and 4 others like this.
  14. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,651
    Likes Received:
    20,112
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You are joking aren't you. ?
    Or are you happy to sit back and let those who smash (not beat) the rules. Win. (Paying players wagers over and above turnover. Trying to buy their way to the prem.)
    We have every right to ensure it's a level playing field where we all abide by the rules.
    It's about time some of these so called big clubs suffered the same fate as Bury for example.
    Pi55 takers spring to mind.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2022
    Hooky feller, Mar 7, 2022
    #14
    Kettlewell, JamieBreweryStander, PaintTarnRed and 5 others like this.
  15. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Messages:
    8,194
    Likes Received:
    12,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No, but we can afford to write a letter to the EFL, which is effectively all we've done.

    EFL have set a precedent by forcing Derby's admins to reach an agreement with Boro and Wycombe.
     
    leythtyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #15
    Stephen Dawson and Hooky feller like this.
  16. BrunNer

    BrunNer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2007
    Messages:
    5,527
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The optics would look better if we'd have done this at the start of the season.

    Just put in some decent performances and try and win some games. Litigating after performances like Saturday just looks desperate, albeit justified.
     
    BrunNer, Mar 7, 2022
    #16
    KFC, Stephen Dawson and Redhelen like this.
  17. NathanBFC94

    NathanBFC94 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2016
    Messages:
    3,863
    Likes Received:
    4,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Langold
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The FFP rules are wrong 100% but just us moaning about it isn't going to help you'd need the backing of the majority of the league to make a serious difference and we aren't going to get that.

    Us reporting teams when we are in the position we are in just looks petty IMO. We woudn't need to do this if we weren't so bad. We also weren't so interested in doing this last season when we were no where near the drop. Doing this now is just embarrassing.
     
    NathanBFC94, Mar 7, 2022
    #17
    Nardiello, DannyWilsonLovechild and Redhelen like this.
  18. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Messages:
    8,194
    Likes Received:
    12,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    To be fair, they didn't pay of a coach and sign three new players at the start of the season. I've just seen the reference to last years' accounts as well, which were not known at the start of the season.

    Nothing will come of it though. Boro wrote to the EFL years ago about Derby and nothing happened till this season.
     
    leythtyke, Mar 7, 2022
    #18
    Kettlewell, BrunNer and Redhelen like this.
  19. YT

    YT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2020
    Messages:
    4,702
    Likes Received:
    18,613
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    As are some of the replies in this thread.

    Put to one side your perceived issues with the club and yes, accept that we ourselves are not exactly whiter than white and posted a loss in the annual accounts.

    But clubs like Reading, Cardiff, Stoke (just three off the top of my shiny head) are hundreds of millions of pounds in debt. Not one of those three are storied, big clubs with a huge fanbase. They are - no offence - bang average clubs in the grand scheme of things.
    I’m not saying we are anything special here. Far from it. But football is completely f*****.

    If, as the governing body, the EFL, want to control spending, to make sure clubs comply with its regulations and - long-term - try to help maintain the future of clubs that the fans adore, then far more needs doing.

    “You are carrying £100,000,000 of debt, posting losses of £50,000,000 for the last financial year? That’s naughty. Here’s a six point deduction.”

    That’s one hell of a deterrent is that.

    The rules do eventually hurt clubs though. But not in a good way. Derby being the case in point. They’ve ended up in administration. So how helpful are the EFL and their rules? Not much by the looks of it.

    Why not set spending limits, caps on salaries etc? One rule for every club regardless of income? An actual level playing field?

    Reason that won’t happen is the number of clubs who want change are in the minority. A tiny one.

    American sport is miles ahead of us in this regard.

    So f*** Reading. And f*** Stoke tomorrow night too. With Mario Vrancic in midfield. Steve Fletcher on the bench. Joe Allen earning more than our XI combined.

    No sympathy. And we are bang on in terms of asking questions of the EFL and its governance.
     
    YT, Mar 7, 2022
    #19
    SFOTyke, John Peachy, Kettlewell and 18 others like this.
  20. NathanBFC94

    NathanBFC94 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2016
    Messages:
    3,863
    Likes Received:
    4,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Langold
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Not at all. What is this going to achieve apart from making us look like desperate idiots trying to avoid the drop by grassing on others. We didn't see any reports linking us to things like this last season when we were decent. But now we are awful and set to drop we are trying to sneak out of it again.
     
    NathanBFC94, Mar 7, 2022
    #20
    Stephen Dawson and Redhelen like this.
Page 1 of 8

Share This Page