Last summer's transfer window

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  1. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Haven’t seen one single person suggest this……
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think Khaled has answered this pretty extensively. And also admitted it was a poor choice of words.
     
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    Budgets can also mean everything. Ask Newcastle, Fulham and Wigan.
     
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    If we sell Collins, Brittain, Anderson, Morris and Kane, on top of Woodrow, Helik and Styles and Wolfe and Palmer go, they would all need replacing pretty much like-for-like. We won't just play this year's U23s. I do get what you're saying in terms of players perhaps not being ready, but it's better to embed them in Lge 1 than at Champ level. We can also attract players such as Bassi and Quina in the loan market in one of the worst seasons in our history, so we would no doubt be able to attract some quality in the loan market in league 1.

    I'm not looking at this through rose-tinted glasses, I know if we go down it will likely be a long, hard slog. But I don't think we'd go down again. I think we would rebuild, and I agree it would be better to do it without Poya. That's my gut feeling. I don't think he's our guy.
     
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    I'm not sure on Kane's contract, but if it doesn't run out in the summer and we go down he will be absolutely integral to our starting XI next season, particularly if for arguments sake we lose all the players listed in this thread. Why would we let him go? If he's our player it's down to us at the end of the day.
     
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    Absolutely. If anyone thinks that there won't be a very different team next year they are crazy. But there will be replacements, that's 'the model'. Also, people think there will be teams ready to pick up all of our players who by all accounts have had a dreadful season.. I wouldn't be so sure. I could also see Wolfe re-signing. I'd be happy to let Romal go.
     
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    With regards to Benson I didnt notice anyone at the time saying it was a bad signing and I certainly dont think this is the end of Benson as a professional footnaller. Like other players slagged of in a red shirt he has still time to have a decent playing career.. Like all signings no one knows for sure.Look at Pogba and Lukaku.
    Gomez Vita Quina Bassi have been a success.
    Cole and Iseka squad players in the championship who will be decent in league 1.
    Oulare one off mistake but if he got fit there is a good player there otherwise he wouldnt have played were he has previously.

    Good transfer in the last 12 months no, a disaster no.
    Schopp and the early injuries was the disaster.

    Mowatt was out of contract and wouldnt sign a new one.
     
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    Wednesday & Sunderland should I’m terms of budgets walk L1.

    I think in the medium term it will give us an advantage but in the short term next year will be a massive rebuild. Going into the season needing basically a new starting 11 probably with a backdrop of losing significant money in the last 2 seasons. A rebuild of this nature you would expect a 2-3 year cycle. Happy to be wrong.

    The team that Wilson put together when we ended up with only a couple of recognised first teamers took 2 years to gel and we flirted with bottom 6 in league 1 and I can’t see us attracting anything like that quality this time around.
     
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    I think you're right. All of those players could come good in league one. Comments like 'I wouldn't play Walton and Brittain in the Sunday League' are quite funny considering those players helped to get us to the play offs less than 12 months ago.
     
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    it’s been an absolute disaster. No point sugar coating. We took a took a top 6 team and made it a bottom 2 team.
     
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    Wigan had zero budget last season, they were nearly relegated. They’ve had the second biggest budget this season, and they’re likely to be promoted.

    “Budgets mean little.”

    Who is top of our division? The club with the biggest budget. No coincidence that both us and Posh are bottom three considering our respective budgets.

    Of course, there are always anomalies. We were one last season. Luton this season. But the more cash (budget) you spend, the better your chance of success.

    We charge one of the lowest season ticket prices in the EFL, we don’t have owners bankrolling us and we’ve barely sold players in recent windows. Attach that to errors/mistakes and we end up in relegation bother. As we’ve done time and time again. Under other ownership also.

    The other week we came up against a striker continually lauded as the best ever at this level. On £100,000 a week. Yesterday, United replaced a £30,000,000 signing with a £20,000,000 signing. They’ve borrowed a player our fans hero worship by paying half of his £28,000 a week salary.

    But our fans blame us for using a young lad we picked up for free after being released by Man City. Completely ignoring who and what we are. A tiny fish in a division that becomes more and more like a second Premier League each year.

    This club has to find ways beyond the norm to compete at this level. And it’s struggling - this season especially - to do so. I don’t know the answer. But it’s sad when our fans see us lose to a club like Sheff Utd considering the gulf in finance and immediately think about creating a thread criticising our transfer window.

    I’d love to see our recruitment team get a hundred million pound budget to build a squad.
     
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    If we go down then it’s a given that we’re going to lose some players. There’ll be those that force a move because they don’t want to play in League One, and those we sell to try and balance the books a little. We’re probably looking at losing at least 3 players that are part of our starting 11. We may get lucky with replacements, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a season similar to 2014-15 where we finish mid-table as the new players settle.

    I can’t see an immediate return to the championship unless we get lucky with the replacements.
     
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    Bang on mate.
     
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    We've been selling Woodrow for the last 6 transfer windows but he's still here and I fully expect him to be here next season.The only player I can see leaving is Helik due to his international ambitions.
     
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    Not sure if you’re missing my point but for all teams that underperform against their budget there’s examples of the budget helping teams perform. There’s no science behind it. Of course it doesn’t guarantee success but the way the gloom is on here you’d think we didn’t have a budget to play with, but that won’t be the case. We’ll still be competitive and a huge attraction vs. your Lincoln, Shrewsbury’s, and even your MK Dons, Rotherham’s and Plymouth’s. We’re a decent club, with great facilities, that in this this scenario has just come down from three years in the Championship.

    The environment we create is what will be the most important thing. I think recruitment looks after itself given Paul a Conway won’t be at the helm.

    I really wouldn’t use Danny Wilson as an example for anything from his second reign. That was sadly a disaster from start to finish, and not just because we were trying to gel a team.
     
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    In terms of budgets have Sunderland and Wednesday run away with the league this year? If not why not? Because whatever money they spend they tend to spend badly.

    Over a period of time then budgets will definitely matter.

    But aye if we go down thinking because we have a bigger budget than Forest Green Rovers that we will automatically go straight back up then we will get a rude awakening. Don’t disagree about your wider points.
     
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    During the Pandemic I did everything I could afford to put monies Ito the club, including season tickets, match programmes, annual video pass, ifollow subs, etc but I can promise you this - they won’t get the snot of my nose end in future until there is a clear and distinct change in policy with regard to how the club is run. That will hold even if by some miracle we manage to avoid relegation.
     
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    Literally nobody has suggested that. You’ve taken a comment and moved it in to something it wasn’t.
     
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    That’s my view. I can’t see getting relegated but a mid table finish seems most likely. If we hit lucky we will be comfortably mid table if not it will be a struggle but we will get there.
     
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    You have literally said many times on this thread you expect us to be successful because we will have a decent budget.
     
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