I've been watching the latest Red All Over. Aside from the analysis of the Sheff U game, which I mostly agree with, they were discussing if we are overly negative as a fan base? Someone else mentioned something like this a few weeks back. Generally, are we more negative than fans of other clubs/areas?
Generally, no. But as said in the video, Twitter comes along... Even when we play well, have a decent little run, people will still find ways to sl ag players off despite having a good game. By all means, have criticism, but when you're slating players regardless of form, that isn't support. That's downright negativity
By the very fact we all chose to support Barnsley Football Club means that deep down we are all optimists. Or even Day dream believers...
I’m not really sure what you mean. To be in the mess we are in, and be positive at the same time, could surely be construed as being unrealistic. Unless, as I reminded myself on Saturday, we were only losing a football match. It wasn’t like I was sitting in Mariupol not knowing if I’d see the day out. So, in that context, we have plenty to be positive about. In a football context, however, positivity would seem to be a bit unrealistic as things stand.
Sums it up for me this post. Started watching 1974/5 under Iley. Been ups & downs. The money wasted last summer on Conway's watch was a total disaster. Not the first time though bad decisions have been made.
Not at all. A set of fans who have had a a stand closed and tickets refunded, had lies told left right and centre, have owners who refuse to speak, have to read it in the newspapers that the owners have been contacting clubs up and down the country regarding moving the club, have been mis-sold tickets for 3 years in a row, have seen the club gone from play off semi finalists to bottom of the league whipping boys in a matter of months because Paul Conway wanted to play CEO again and have seen the side capitulate week in, week out for months and we still turn up in our thousands and hand over our hard earned cash? I'd say that makes Barnsley fans bloody brilliant personally.
In general, face to face, or out and about - no, not at all. Immediately after a match, or instantly online? Yes. Human nature innit. The club matters to folk. All at different levels I guess. From those who don't go anymore, but still watch on a screen, or check the results at full time. To those who are with us up and down the country. Never miss a game. It's more important to folk than many would like to admit.
We wasn't negative this time last week when we were winning a game. Although the TWO PARND FIFTY FOR YA BURGERS hut wasn't there.
Can't disagree to some extent. If this summer is as bad as the last one, I think people will be talking with their feet. Talking to the 30 ish ST holders I know about 40% will renew. I'm one that won't. I'm supporting the lads on the field, but feel the club has fallen on hard times, due to this puppy farm philosophy. We have saved the club serveral times by bringing in one experienced leader. Conway isn't interested this time round. It's too late now. He's ****** it up big time.
its just the world we live in , apparently 64 percent of all twitter posts are negative,its easier to destroy something than build it up
That's not quite what I meant, but if course I understand your point. I've seen countless posts over the last few months, where when challenged about negativity, the poster claims they're just being realistic. But they're often not. For example, someone claimed to be being realistic when predicting we'd lose 5-0 to West Brom. Despite not losing a single game by more than 3 goals all season, and West Brom being in average form. Someone claimed to be being realistic when they said we'd sell all of our best players in January, although we haven't sold a key player in January for 3 seasons now. That sort of thing. It just gets on my nerves a bit. Dressing negativity up as realism, when it isn't realistic at all.
You're talking about the one or two extreme people who predict really unrealistic things though. Surely the question was about the majority of fans and the negativity shown by the majority IS realism. The majority dont predict a 5 nil loss but the majority are quite negative about the club at the moment for real reasons
Not really at times our fan base has been very positive in past years but right now things are looking bleak the clubs carrying debt, the owners are silent and send there puppet in to hide behind, we have some decent players but alot of deadwood and many of our best players are loans, were on the brink of relegation, the football got so bad many season ticket holders gave up going.... not alot to be positive about its the worst season i can remeber.
when my son was young he once came out and said "I enjoyed the game, but why does everyone moan and say nasty things about our own players", oh the innocence of youth
What's realistic Archey is that, on the pitch, competing at Championship/second tier level has always been a struggle. Even more so in these days of financial doping. I can accept that. Whats also realistic is that the current owners have lied, dissembled, made disastrous decisions on recruitment or lack of it, treated fans with contempt and left themselves rightly and deeply unpopular. I want them gone but realistically I can't see how that's going to happen while leaving the club in a better position.
Maybe so, I notice it quite often though, perhaps daily. It's not just scorelines either, someone posted yesterday saying that our recruitment in the coming summer will see us drop through the divisions into the conference in 2 years. Even though things aren't at all good at the club at present, I honestly don't know how people leap to such extremes.
Absolutely! When you back up your point with facts and/evidence, I have no issues with any negative comments around the club. What isn't realism, and is just negativity for the sake of it, is that we'll be playing in the conference in 2 years, as someone said with some certainty yesterday. That's an opinion based on extreme speculation.