How come if Covid is finished I've got it now

In that case it's appalling on her part. If she was under no pressure to actually come into the office. At the NHS most management are still working from home unless absolutely needed on site.

 

Never heard of Bradford Factor but it sounds like a **** talent show.

 

It’s full ********.



I kind of get what it means in that I’m sure it is more disruptive but who plans when they are getting sick? And how does it help them for me to be sick for longer when I am?

 

At the moment her level of immunity is going to be the highest it will be. I think some studies showed that vaccine plus infection on her style of drugs can push up to around 60-70% (around double what it was post her last vaccine). The problem is that every 8 weeks she has an infusion that essentially kills antibodies and suppresses her immune system from attacking her. So though it doesn't fully reset, as we initially thought it did, the immunity wanes very sharply back down to a peak of around 30% and waning thereafter til a further vaccine top up or natural reinfection.

She wanted to venture out on Saturday. I didn't think it was a great idea, but what can you say? So I suggested we went for a walk locally first thing and see how she felt. We didn't get very far and headed back. I suspect we'll get to a stage where her experience becomes less vivid in her mind, but it then comes down to her choice, how pervasive infection is at a moment in time and her view of risking her life for whatever outcome it may be.

In our instance though, our options aren't especially considerable. Our main hope is the virus morphs into something that isn't life threatening even without vaccines. How likely that is, who can tell?

 

It's a ridiculously outdated formula that is aimed at trying to identify people skiving. I'm amazed it's still used by some organisations.

 

Exactly. I've gone off sick an hour ago. I've tried to stay in work this past week or two but I can't do it at the moment. I've had two days off sick in the past year prior to this, one due to a bad cold and was told to go get PCR tested (neg), the other due to a migraine.

 

She was under significant pressure to come into the office because she'd just started. When your immediate boss and the head of the organisation ask for a face to face meeting rather than by zoom... thats a lot of pressure to say no to in your second week.

 

I think he means the woman who came in when ill, not your missus mate.

 

Exactly why the decision has been taken to live with it. We have the vaccines and our health workers have a far better understanding of what works etc.

We either shy away forever or get on with it and the virus does basically end up for most as a bout of flu at worst.

If 1 in 16 people in the country had COVID, personally I think that sort of validates the decision to drop the restrictions. If masses of people were dying at that infection rate we would certainly be overwhelmed across the entire country in hospitals etc.

Once it starts to cost the public for testing, these figures will be absorbed in the general statistics for hospital admissions / deaths. Death rates since December have been below the expected average in the country so the key indicators there support the decision to live with the virus.

Mortality rates for the country show now that influenza is responsible for nearly as many deaths as covid now with covid rates falling month on on month. So even calling for people selfish for not wearing masks needs to stop. how many people routinely wore them to protect the vulnerable from influenza? Practically zero yet as the stats now show there's not much difference in rates now. We just have to be accepting of each others viewpoints.

Nothing can take away the pain for families across the world for any death so certainly not trying to trivialise the impact of the virus, but the focus now has to be on continual improvement in treatments and vaccines for covid (like any other illness).

Just my personal view but I think the impact of living in continuous fear of covid was doing as much damage to so many peoples mental health as covid did to peoples physical health. I guess it's just a careful balancing act.

 

Just out of curiosity (and genuine curiosity).... why did you assume the person who came in ill and passed it on was female?

 

I thought I had read you said it was a she but now I've checked you didn't, so not sure! SD referring to them as a she maybe...

 

No argument from me mate.

 

I can see some of your points. What I would hope now is that covid has created awareness into some simple measures that can suppress diseases, which though well known, can kill. And it would be extremely helpful if we had practices and processes and communications in place to aim to give those who can't "live with it" a chance of living.

This government love their 3 word focus group tested slogans. Sadly "Live With It" without anything behind it is far from living with it.

There are allsorts of things that could be done. Say on public transport, on trains in particular, a carriage or two (depending on the number) dedicated to those properly wearing a face mask. Messaging to try and give people wearing a mask 2 metres of room, or not to rush or crowd them. And repeated reminders for couriers and food delivery drivers to wear a mask or stand the hell back without having to be asked.

None of those things impinge on civil liberties at all. But asking around 1.3m vulnerable people to "live with it" isn't the right thing either.

 

Always blame him! ;-)

It was a he by the way.

 

ha ha

 

Everyone and their dogs seem to be getting it now. Most people seem to be a bit run down and taking a week off work but, crucially, not in hospital. Expect I'll have it imminently, if I haven't already got it.

 

Yeah it is going around my work at the moment. How I've managed to dodge it is beyond me.

 

I thought I'd read it. Apologies.

 

Yeah I'd got it into my head I'd read it a she. In spite of there being no reference to it being a woman.

 

sorry off topic, but a refugee in Hull was knocked over in the street deliberately by a car the other day, it was on the local news and the reporter said " a local charity spokesman said, he blames the government for putting these people wanting asylum in run down areas", I was yes literally