[Official Site] 2022/23 SEASON TICKET UPDATE

I'm a little puzzled as to why 135 years is a significant milestone. What would be different if it were 134 or 136 ?
I'm torn ... I'm sad. I have followed this club since 1968 and cannot remember a more depressing scenario than the current one, a scenario where instead of people being excited about their club they are rebelling against it. The reasons are plain to see, we believe we know why.
One of the main recent problems for me is that last season despite being a success was more or less written off by those in charge, bemoaning the fact that it had cost a fortune to reach the playoffs. The players had suddenly become worthless, unsaleable, due to a playing style unworthy of the plan. How dare other clubs not want to buy our players just because they could run around all the game and kick the ball further !
The financial gain was nil, zero. And there is the problem.
No praise for a fantastic effort, more like blame. Yet these people had employed a coach to achieve success but probably couldn't wait to get rid of him for the money they would get. His was to be the only money they would get.
I've said a few times that I believe we are now being run down deliberately and have been pulled up on that thought. I still believe it as the owners are not achieving their goals at BFC as they would have hoped. Money is their goal and they are not getting it with us.
Had we reached the Prem they would have been ecstatically showing off all over the place. We'd have been on Times Square buildings permanently exhorting the greatness of the owners, the club and the Plan. Instead they are now all so "transparent" that we never see them. It's embarrassing.
I cannot imagine what next season will be like at Oakwell from a fans viewpoint. It is depressing now so goodness knows what the future will bring.
So sad, so sad.

 

Cheers mate. Don't let "THEM" take it away from us.

 

I’ll probably renew. I very much dislike some of the shareholders’ behaviours but this is outweighed by wanting to share something with my boys and see my family.

totally understand why people would not go as in lots of ways I feel the same.

in terms of value it’s difficult to fault and let’s be honest winning in league one is eminently more enjoyable than regularly getting beaten in the championship.

some of best memories have been in league one and I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect current prices to be reduced.

 

It's good that Juniors have been extended right up to the age of 14, as beyond that they have the active choice to start earning their own money down the pit so it makes sense to put their prices up then.

 

I'll be getting one as will my 2 oldest kids as we like going.

 

I was annoyed at the suggestions that the players' values hadn't increased, and that that was because of the playing style, because both ideas were nonsense.

We signed Helik for a six figure fee. We could easily have got a seven figure fee for him, but we priced him out of the market by wanting 5 or 6 times what we had paid for him less than 12 months earlier. Given Covid losses, clubs weren't going to gamble £5m+ which is what the club said it would take to sell anyone on a player that had only done it for one season at this level.

 

They have been critical of 2 managers in Stendell and Ismael who did well for the club. Not a good look for me.

 

With me it's a choice to abstain. My heart wasn't in it well before Covid. I can't say my decision is down to the owners because I was brought up with you pay to watch 23 matches. What happens during those matches is inconsequential. You could lose all 23 you pay your money you take your chance. At the time I stopped regularly attending I could handle that. Just not the dross I was watching under Hecky at the time. I came back during our promotion campaign and enjoyed that season in League 1. However, it was the dross under Stendel in the Championship that swayed me away again. I haven't been back since.

 

But what was said was true. Barnsley fans like it or not.

It wasn't long ago since people were trying to compare Woodrow and Ivan Toney and saying Woodrow was worth the same or whatever. He wasn't because of the skills/ versatility Ivan showed.

For example, a CB. What do CBs that go for a lot go for, and which earn the most? Ball playing centre backs that are mobile and good with both feet. Helik never got to show that before and to a lesser extent neither did Anderson.

IT also goes to every position. They all have strong points. If you’re a goalkeeper and you aren’t good with the short to short-medium pass then forget it. Add Both feet to that and you have hit the jackpot.

Full Backs. Doesn’t really matter what they do defensively, what are they giving me in the opposition’s half.

 

That's why I'm not concerned by an exodus of players this summer. I don't think Helik and Anderson are that much cop defensively anyway. The players I'm more concerned with losing are Morris and Jordan Williams.

 

Saturday was the 1st time I've been in over 2 years.

I was left frustrated (service wise), angered (performance wise) and down right bemused (Poya wise) at the situation.

Luckily, I'd opted for use of some of the Flexi tickets. Cos if I'd have paid for that for all of us, I'd be even more cheesed off.

My eldest is asking more and more now about potentially getting ST's again. Even my old man likely warm to the idea if we planned our day and parking better.

Me, afraid not. Whilst I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it even in today's climate, I'm not paying until I see changes. Not words. Actions speak more than words ever can. I feel I may be waiting quite a while as Saturdays experience left me with no feeling of wanting to repeat it.

I'm one of many that appears to have lost the appetite from having my 1st ST right from THAT promotion season. Many a time, it was only my persistence that got others to keep going. And now the boot is squarely on the other foot.

I just feel sad about the whole thing after being such a big part of my life ever since the miners strike. Never would have I anticipated the day I chalked on it.

 

I don't agree with that about them not being good defenders but the point was been fans so-called good defender only means nothing in football 2022.

I don't want it as a fan.
The players don't want it because they want progression. Helik to break into the Poland team 11. Anderson, Prem and Denmark Squad progression.
Little return on investment to grow the club, also how do you sell the club to players. They couldn't in the summer for apparently two reasons. Barnsley the place and one didn't want to play in that style of football. That spreads too, like a virus.

Millwall sold a CB for a lot of money in the last 10 years?

 

You don't think that Covid, a season behind closed doors and the fact that barely a penny was spent on transfers by Championship clubs in the summer was a bigger factor, than our playing style?

Helik won't have any trouble finding a club in the summer. And I think if we'd have asked for 1.5m-2m for him last summer, there'd have been offers. His value had increased, relative to what we paid for him.

 

I'd still expect Helik to fetch at least £1.5m even now, hopefully nearer £2m. As well as his defensive abilities he carries a major threat from set pieces if the delivery is good (ours has been shocking since Mowatt left).
I think Anderson has come on a lot too and ought to fetch well in excess of £1m
Might get £2m for Styles, £1m for Woodrow and it ought to be at least £2m for Morris.
A possible summer fire sale of £8m there which would claw back the £6m income loss for relegation and half the £4.5m debt.
Not be a lot left of the squad after like.......

 

I'd expect a lot more than that for those players.

 

I think we'll also be looking at departures for Collins and Brittain. Hopefully if they do all go, it will bring in enough to cover the deficit and continue to service the debt.

Then a question of whether we can keep, and build a team around, Walton, Williams, Kitching, Hondermarck, Wolfe, Benson, Kane, Marsh, Aitchison, Iseka. With the right signings, probably loans, to complement them, we could be competitive in the top half. Would be all about getting the coach confirmed early enough in the summer, so that the player recruitment can be targetted to whatever playing style we'll likely have.

 

Be nice but I think you'll be disappointed. Reckon we might get less than I've predicted......

 

Wolfe is out of contract and will definitely have suitors seeing as there won't be a fee (maybe nominal compensation from a tribunal).

 

I imagine some, if not all will have the fees fixed into their contracts on relegation.

 

Apologies if this has already been drawn out as I haven't had chance to read all the posts on pages 2-5 of this thread yet. Equal apologies if folk think this is me just being indignant about something they had already gathered and discounted.

However, I was at a loss to understand the comment at the top of the club article about the prices being frozen in relation to the comment at the bottom about a season ticket price working out at £13.70 per game for an adult in the Ponte.

£13.70 per game gives a price of £315 for an adult Ponte ST. That is not the price of an adult ST for the Ponte for ST Holders who renewed in 2021/22. That was £265.

So, it appears that the price that has been frozen is that for NEW season tickets in 2021/22. In all areas of the ground these were £50 higher for an adult ticket than the price of 2021/22 renewals.

For those of us that have been renewing ad infinitum the statement implies we will have a whopping £50 extra to pay for 2022/23 as opposed to 2021/22. For me in the ESL that's an 18% year on year increase (+19% Ponte and +15% E/WSU).

Appreciate that there's more detail to come but I think that's the logical conclusion from the club article yesterday.