[Official Site] 2022/23 SEASON TICKET UPDATE

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  1. She

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    It's been in operation for the whole season, under two CEOs, the latter of whom appointed a Head Coach to oversee it when better options were available in terms of avoiding relegation.

    I agree with you to the extent that relegation wasn't part of the plan, as there's been a complete disregard about it throughout. Those running the club believed their own hype and ignored what was staring them in the face for far too long in that regard.
     
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    If you can find your characteristic optimism tonight, of all nights, then you really are a special person.
     
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    Source Loko?
     
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    Helik forced his way in the Poland squad. Styles has been called up for Hungary. Mowatt left to sign for a promotion favourite. And record numbers of scouts were at our games during lockdown. The Woodrow rumours were valid but we didn’t take the money on offer.

    By conveyor belt I don’t just mean the players we’ve signed. I just mean we’ve predicted an exodus for the last three seasons because all these owners care about is money and profit, but we’ve yet to see one. It will come true this Summer at the fourth time of asking.
     
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    Local journalists. Credible sources more closely connected to players and agents than me. Scouts attending games.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    The plan wasn’t to get relegated. The plan wasn’t to scrap everything from last season and reduce the value in the playing squad.

    Introducing an easier on the eye style that gets players to show their talents more is a sound strategy. What we ended up with was an absolute car crash.
     
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    Mowatt let his contact wind-down and he made a killing as a consequence. How do you know, for a fact, that the ‘Woodrow rumours were valid’? If Helik and Styles leave, as a consequence of international call-ups, that still doesn’t justify your statement that they could have been sold earlier, unless you know this for a fact. As for money and profit, they are two different things. If our reading of the current financial situation is accurate then players will have to be sold, profit or not, because we need the cash.
     
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    If you say so.
     
  9. Loko the Tyke

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    You were giving the impression that the conveyor belt of players wasn’t very good, hence no offers. I was pointing out their International call ups as evidence they can’t be that bad.

    We knew we would likely need the cash before this transfer window and the last one. We didn’t sell. Like I said, at the fourth time of asking the predictions about a fire sale will be proven correct. It happens to most teams that get relegated so that part doesn’t worry me. Who’s in the dugout is of more interest and concern.
     
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    I rate both Helik and Styles. I’m simply taking issue with you regarding your assertion that bids have been turned down, and that this somehow paints the people in charge in a better light. That’s all.
     
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    Or in simpler terms, we tried to fix what wasn't broken, and that typically never ends well.

    The scale of the deterioration probably goes beyond anyone's expectations as to how bad it could be, but we've had several chances to address this throughout the season and have somehow made the wrong choice on pretty much every occasion.

    Regardless of all this, avoiding relegation isn't a factor in deciding not to renew, in the same way that it hasn't impacted me for the last 27 years as a ST holder. That still ultimately boils down to a refusal on my part to put funds into the club so that the owners can ultimately pay the purchase price for it. What genuinely angers me is that there's been pretty much the entire season for this to be addressed in a transparent way. Ultimately, they're still obfuscating on this and the clearest response we've had from this, ironically given through Gally, is essentially that the payment was absolutely fine as far as everyone within the club is concerned and which implies that it will be repeated for the other instalments, once they stopped using club funds on legal costs to argue about whether or not these need to be paid. Much as I find this an unacceptable response, I'd at least give them a modicum of credit if they simply fronted up and stated this directly. The refusal to do so tells me all I need to know in terms of making a renewal decision.
     
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    I genuinely think we turned down bids for Woodrow. I also think the Mowatt rumours were true given they weren’t just on random rumours sites. I said interest in others rather than bids.
     
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    Loko defending our CEO again !
     
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    Defending and criticising in equal measure. Or criticising his boss any road. I’ll share the same shock when you post something remotely positive.

    Keep up the good work.
     
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    Its been a disaster from the preseason onwards. No club could have avoided relegation with the things that have gone on since last summer. The writing has been on the wall since the start of the season.
     
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    Ismaël did what Ismaël does. Short term success leaves a big pile of problems. 158 first team games at 7 clubs.

    That style doesn't last long be it if you are winning every week or losing.

    the guys a Mancini/Mourinho style coach.
     
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    Me too. Or, at least, I think we should get a lot more. There are a lot of pretty average players who fetch a lot more. We got £5.5 million for Mawson over 5 years ago. I think Helik is worth as much. £1 -2 million for players is peanuts in the modern era.
     
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    I'm a big fan of Anderson. Just think the guys utter class.

    Helik Anderson Styles should be 8 million for me at least.
     
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    I think he 100% did mean it as it came across. Clearly for it to even be in his head it had come from above during his hiring process. The naive part is he has the let the truth slip out and since has been trying to backtrack on it.
     
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    This for me this was biggest realisation. Winning football matches is no longer the the number one priority. Now they own the club and can run it how they like, it's just not a approach I am willing to invest my money in.
     

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