[Official Site] 2022/23 SEASON TICKET UPDATE

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  1. Barnsley Chopin

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    They're on now if you can afford to pay it all in one lump sum!
     
    Barnsley Chopin, Apr 6, 2022
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    "We want to grow the club year after year.
    Our goals are very simple.
    • Stabilise the team in the Championship.
    • Enhance the fans' experience.
    • Deepen the squad.
    Our belief is through the commercialization and internationalization of the team everyone will benefit - the club, the fans and the town."

    Paul Conway, 20 December 2017.

    How do we think they are doing?
     
    orsenkaht, Apr 6, 2022
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  3. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Stop being so simplistic. Our best players will always move on. That’s the nature of being a club our size striving to establish in the Championship.

    But when they do move on let’s make sure we’ve made them the best possible players they can be and developed them as much as possible. These things aren’t separate or exclusive. You can trade players, be successful, and have a pleasing style of football like we saw under previous Head Coaches.

    This part myth about not wanting to win football matches doesn’t have substance. I don’t think anyone at the football club today doesn’t have being a Championship club as their primary objective- we’ve just made a real mess of achieving it, you guessed it, due to Calamity Conway.
     
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  4. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think our CBs would have attracted big bids but only Alfie Mawson/Mark Roberts type money and more the latter over the former. To really grow how did we make them £8 million players signing for your Norwich/Burnley/Brighton types? Like Webster, Gibson, etc.

    The priority has to be developing players to sell at the value we set, rather than just selling players, because we haven’t really sold anyone for three years have we? We must be the only selling club that doesn’t sell. We also know, looking at the accounts, that moving players on at a profit is how we don’t fall down the rabbit hole of ramping up the debt beyond what it’s hit post COVID.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Apr 6, 2022
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    I've renewed
    What else would I do on a Saturday afternoon. Lol
     
    Orared, Apr 6, 2022
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  6. Loko the Tyke

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    I quite like how Poya approaches the game with our squad. I enjoy the style we’ve adopted, that isn’t possession based and mixes keeping the ball with going long. I don’t compare him with Schopp to be honest, who constantly refused to go long and insisted on leaving gaping holes behind our wing backs. We were so, so easy to play against it was criminal.

    Sadly we don’t have anywhere near enough quality outside of a Starting XI and Poya’s naivety with this defensive approach will be why he’ll go down as having failed in English football.
     
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  7. Old

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    I’m sitting in Matalan at the moment having a coffee while the wife is browsing. They have loads of stuff here I could buy, but nothing that in my opinion I need, or is better than stuff I already own, or that I think is terrific value for money. So I’ll not be buying.
     
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  8. ley

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    I do agree with that, and think if Poya had been in charge all season, we'd probably be above Reading now, because Schopp was just inept, which points to one of Khaled's other failings, which was not sacking him sooner.

    But when Poya was appointed, the various reports on him was that he prefers to play a possession based game, and he clearly prefers a low block / counter attack style. Our best performances have come when he's had to go against what comes naturally to him. That is to his credit, as he has tried to adapt, and succeeded at times. But I'm not sure it's right to appoint somebody that has to do that.

    Personally, I wanted Warnock, purely because I think he would've led to some decent recruitment in January and would've got the best out of enough of the players to make a difference faster than Poya did.
     
    leythtyke, Apr 6, 2022
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    It's more subtle than that. The issue is on-field performance no longer being the primary objective behind Board-level decisions on how the club is run. This isn't the first season that this has been the case, but we got away with it the first time due to another club's points deduction. This season, despite more points being deducted from clubs around us, we've not been good enough to benefit.
     
    Sheriff, Apr 6, 2022
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    When I have something positive to say about the club I will pal ! You will be first name on the list ! However, I think you may find the wait too long
     
    mick woodhouse, Apr 6, 2022
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    I agree with you Ben. But I also firmly believe that the focus on winning matches has been fatally undermined by the additional objective associated with the recruitment model. As such, it's been watered down and has resulted in our abysmal performance this season. I also don't believe it's just down to CC. Calamity El-Ahmad shares the blame for me. Poor judgement call to stick with Schopp as long as he did imo - and whilst I'm sure he would've had to consult the owners on it I am confident the decision when to do that was his. Then there was no urgency in appointing a replacement, we should have had someone lined up. And then the gamble of another inexperienced manager rather than the safer bets that were out there. And whilst I don't know what work was done behind the scenes in January, the failure to secure incomings sooner in the window plus the failure to secure a more experienced holding midfield player(s) has ultimately got to be down to him in my view.

    And then of course there's all the other stuff you've already mentioned e.g. West Stand etc.

    PMG and Conway in particular have been a calamity. And imo whilst he appears to be a friendly, amicable person, our CEO has been equally to blame for this s**t show of a season on and off the pitch.
     
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    wolvestyke, Apr 6, 2022
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  12. Dan

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    Amen.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild, Apr 6, 2022
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    I don't think that is true. The most obvious way for our “investors” to achieve a return is for the club to be successful and for revenues to grow. Realistically though to bridge the revenue gap with other clubs regularly selling a player is going to be important, at least while we have owners who won't chuck money at the club, like most other owners do. (I I don't particularly want that).
     
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    Ultimately my biggest issue is that on top of the shambolic miss management of the club is that the owners are using the clubs own funds to finance the purchase.
     
    Redstone, Apr 6, 2022
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  15. ley

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    I think it is a lot simpler than any theory about the board's objectives. I think it is simply a case of Paul Conway being useless at any role that involves recruitment of players.

    I dread to think of how much money we are paying players that he has brought into the club, to not play for us.
     
    leythtyke, Apr 6, 2022
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    Surprised they have been on sale for hours on Eticketing but the official site hasn't done a article today going through everything.
     
    dreamboy3000, Apr 6, 2022
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    The previous example of this was when Cavare, Pinillos and (I think) Thiam turned down moves away in the January transfer window under Struber and were subsequently frozen out of the first team squad after that. All were arguably better options than players being selected, but were not picked as there was no longer any resale value benefit to be achieved from doing so as as their contracts were expiring in the summer.

    It was a clear case of us not selecting our best available players within the squad for reasons related to resale value. Ultimately, it resulted in us being one of the worst 3 teams in the division based on playing performance, but we dodged a bullet thanks to Wigan's points deduction.
     
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    I think this is much closer to the truth.
     
    Gally, Apr 6, 2022
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    I don't dispute the impact of the awful decisions he's made but the two aren't mutually exclusive. We've made numerous appalling decisions when he's not been acting as CEO too.
     
    Sheriff, Apr 6, 2022
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    I sit near someone’s dad who we were reputed to have had an offer made on. Nice chap if a bit loud. He wasn’t aware of any offers though of course might just not have wanted to share them with me.
     
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