Time to accept that our level is no longer the Championship?

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  1. Dan

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    #41 DannyWilsonLovechild, Apr 12, 2022
    There are some very big clubs in League 1 as it stands too. 9 former Premier League (old Division 1) clubs in there (though obviously a couple may win promotion this year).
     
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    #42 red24/7, Apr 12, 2022
    We be ok then divisions are like age only a number
     
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    #43 RedVesp, Apr 12, 2022
    One bad season?

    06/07 20th Champ

    07/08 18th Champ

    08/09 20th Champ

    09/10 18th Champ

    10/11 17th Champ

    11/12 21st Champ

    12/13 21st Champ

    13/14 23rd Champ

    14/15 11th L1

    15/16 6th L1

    16/17 14th Champ

    17/18 22nd Champ

    18/19 2nd L1

    19/20 21st Champ
     
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    #44 Stephen Dawson, Apr 12, 2022
    I was 15 when we lost to Ipswich and 36 when we lost to Swansea. Hopefully I'll see us back sumat like when I'm 57.
     
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    #45 Tyke_67, Apr 12, 2022
    that's the spirit :)
     
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    #46 SFOTyke, Apr 12, 2022
    We've had more seasons like this one over the past 135 years, than we have had seasons like last year.

    It just hurts more than usual because they came so close together.

    I think we're down, but we'll be back up again in my lifetime, and I say that as an old Boomer.
     
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    #47 Marlon, Apr 12, 2022
    I was replying to some saying our default position is now league one .
    I wasn’t contemplating a push for promotion every season we’re in the Championship and nor do need to be fighting relegation every season also .
    Over the years we’ve done well and got into top half positions and others we’ve battled relegation and lots of times mid table . It’s football it’s expected , nothings a given but my aspirations don’t expect glory every season or relegation battles every season but I do hope we try and that’s what’s kept us in the Chamipnship all these years .
    As I said last year was incompetence on a level i can’t remember in all my years watching and we’ll be in Div 1 for some tone to come imo because of the fall out from it but I won’t accept it as our default division or that it’s our level because of the way things are generally .
    It’s our level at the moment because of the ownership not because of our perceived status .
     
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    #48 Stephen Dawson, Apr 12, 2022
    The way these owners are going on we're going to need to sell 16000 season tickets just to compete.
     
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    #49 Stephen Dawson, Apr 12, 2022
     
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    #50 Tyke_67, Apr 12, 2022
    I disagree. What's needed is to cut out the mis-management, wastefulness and start recruiting Head Coaches who know what they're doing.
     
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    #51 Stephen Dawson, Apr 12, 2022
    Jack Aitchison and Miller wastefulness?
     
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    #52 Tyke_67, Apr 12, 2022
    Yes, that kind of thing. Along with Thomas, Benson, Oulare............
     
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    #53 troff, Apr 12, 2022
    A competent manager and Matty Wolfe not spending six months at a Danish Micky mouse outfit might have been enough…
     
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    #54 SFOTyke, Apr 12, 2022
    I enjoyed listening to that. Thanks.
     
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    #55 North Yorks Red, Apr 12, 2022
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    No such thing as 'our level ' you get what you deserve on and off the pitch.
    The current organisation at the top certainly don't deserve to be in the Championship with their idiotic plan, but I think we should once again aspire to be a Championship club , consolidate and then see where we go from there.

    Note to owners , Do NOT piss Championship football away through total ineptitude!
     
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    #56 tomaiba, Apr 12, 2022
    Did you really go all the way back to 06/07?? I thought all our problems were the current owners fault
     
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    #57 RedVesp, Apr 12, 2022
    Just pointing out that for all our successes, they are few and far between, regardless of what era you choose to look at.
     
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    #58 Red CB, Apr 12, 2022
    It is pointless saying that any level is where a team should be , you get what you deserve on the pitch so what ever league you are in where you deserve to be, if every team accepted their current level then there would be no competition or ambition , history suggests that the championship is our level but next season it will be division one & deservedly so but when we eventually return to the championship that also will be where we deserve to be.
     
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    #59 Jimmy viz, Apr 12, 2022
    based on that as a percentage the answer to your question is that we would expect to be a lower end Championship team.
     
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    #60 Jimmy viz, Apr 12, 2022
    History means very little. Our level is the one we find ourselves in based on results. If you were to look at things holistically in terms of support, infrastructure etc then we would fall between 20th in the Championship and 6 in L1 and expect is to flit between the two. As teams like Bournemouth and Brentford show us things can change pretty quickly. At the same time teams like Notts County and York show us the flip side of that.
     
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