The PM and Chancellor to be fined for breach of Covid laws

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  1. JamDrop

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    Not to go off on a tangent but I don’t think the Mail’s typical audience is graduates and I’ve never heard dreamboy talking about having a degree (although I may have missed it). I’m pretty sure that a lot of your dad’s generation who left school at 14 read the red tops, whether that be the Mail, the Sun, the Mirror etc.

    To be clear, I don’t care what anyone’s education level is, I’m just wondering why you posted what you did.
     
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    It’s a bizarre post.

    Young graduates are the least likely to vote for Johnson and his cronies. His point makes absolutely no sense at all. It’s the boomer generation that voted for Brexit and voted him in.
     
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    The problem here is there is no equivalence between Starmer having a perfectly legal meal and drink whilst campaigning and Johnson having several parties which were explicitly against the rules he imposed on the rest of us. He then lied to parliament about breaking those rules and also said in parliament that if he was lying it was a resignation matter
    The "They are all as bad" propaganda put out is a bare faced lie
    The population are being gaslighted on an industrial scale in ways that had never been tried in the UK before Cummings and his Vote Leave campaign and accelerated since then

    A bigger problem is it works on a sizeable chunk of the voting public
     
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    I am beginning to really fear that not only will Johnson ride this out, but that he will actually win again in 2024 - even if it's without an overall majority. I fear that his pitch will be: "Look, I come before you humbly (!) knowing that I might not have got everything right. But we got brexit done, we drove Putin out of Kiev/Ukraine (delete as appropriate), and we got you vaccinated." And I fear that there will be enough people that will actually swallow all that.
     
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    Sadly, that's the view I have. And if he gets away with this now, I suspect he will push harder to get through some hugely self serving "reforms" that assist in gerrymandering and securing tory power for a further generation.

    No BBC to push back. No Channel 4 to push back. Very few paper publications to push back. The judiciary with clipped wings. It's a very worrying state of affairs.
     
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    "but Starmer"
     
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    Fantastic and on the money as usual
     
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    Actually I think he does have a point. The Tories have got more prescriptive in what gets taught and the way its taught.
     
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    Yes my dad red a red top, but he could smell bullsh** a mile off, and had a healthy disrespect for the actual ‘elite’.

    OTOH here’s a small but growing number of younger members here, whose search for an alternative to ‘mainstream media’ leads them straight into the most ridiculous rabbit holes. (as per the post I replied to).
     
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    Of all my ‘boomer’ friends and family, it’s a v small minority who voted Brexit. And an even smaller minority who have ever voted Tory - that said, I choose my friends wisely.

    The Brexiteers I’ve been close to go across the generations, though you have a small point in they’re more likely to be the older ones.

    But my point was actually about the increasing number of the younger generation who get pulled into single issue politics, conspiracy theories etc.

    For instance: in my lifetime I don’t recall a less competent government than the one we have; but the open goal will likely be missed cos lefties won’t vote for someone they see as responsible for the downfall of Corbyn, feminists who will only vote for candidates who recognise biological sex, veggies who insist on a greener agenda than the country could sustain etc etc.
     
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    Please don't forget you are talking to the BBS class idiot.
     
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    Yes its brilliant, hence why I posted it about 2 pages ago.
     
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    So good worth doing twice. My eyes glazed over at the they are all same posts so skipped to the end. Mea culpa.
     
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    Think there’s something in that. At the same time we have main two political parties that are actively saying they don’t want left wing members or voters so that’s firmly on the boomer divorced dads led by Starmer. I don’t care either way about Corbyn and voted for Starmer in the leadership election based on his 10 pledges all of which he has abandoned and now actively says he doesn’t want people like me to vote Labour so we won’t.
     
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    I was going to write a serious response, then I got to you last paragraph and realised there's no point.
     
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    ;)
     
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    The government is announcing a policy which heaps misery on asylum seekers because it will be good PR amongst its core support. If that wasn't dystopian enough, it is only doing this in order to distract from the fact that the PM has been proven to have lied to Parliament and the public over flouting his own public health laws that kept families apart for months.

    That's where we are, let that sink in.

    If you voted for this shower of **** you need to have a long, hard look at yourself. We told you exactly who they ******* were but you didn't listen and now we're all paying the price for your stupidity/xenophobia/gullibility/short sightedness.
     

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