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  1. SFOTyke

    SFOTyke Well-Known Member

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    Kylian Mbappe is on the brink of signing a two-year contract extension with Paris St-Germain worth £42.5m a year, plus an £85m signing-on fee for the 23-year-old France forward.

    The world has gone mad!
     
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    The salaries paid now to the top players are just obscene.
     
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    Once upon a time in France, they used to chop the heads off the super-rich. Now look at them.

     
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    Quality tune
     
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    Idnt someone post something on here recently around the french leagues finanial outturns.. something like psg made a 223million euro loss year (figure may be different) so why would they change.. seems barmy..
    Issue with being by owned by a country.. is they invest in you and not their own people.. morally bankrupt is football.
     
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    I don't know, football is the no.1 sport in a lot of countries. There are a lot of people that earn a lot of money doing very little. Personally I'd rather no one had that sort of money, to each according to their beeds, but in the capitalist world we live in I'm not going to single out footballers
     
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    Still nowhere near what eg Taylor Swift, Daniel Craig etc are making. Don't see why footballers shouldn't get paid like other top entertainers, better them than the corrupt suits running the game. UEFA giving 20k tickets to both Liverpool and Madrid then selling the remaining 35,000 themselves.
     
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    One doesn't excuse the other. Like Kiefer said, football is morally bankrupt.
     
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    Daniel Craig gets paid c20 million for each bond film. They made one every few years so your example doesn’t really stack up.

    When you then consider that his last bond film made $470m in profit the example is even more ridiculous. Mbappe is going to be paid £120m in his first year whilst the team lose £300m.
     
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    The Taylor Swift comparison is even less applicable. Daniel Craig was paid before the movie was made. He would have got the money even the film was a flop. Taylor Swift takes a percentage of sales. If her recorded music and live shows don't make a profit she gets nothing at all. If footballers worked to the same model they'd all owe their clubs money.
     
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    The problem with not pointing the finger at anyone is that you end up sitting in silence and accepting everything. Football finances in general, and the amounts paid to (some) players in particular, are completely ludicrous.

    I'm not suggesting that posting a comment on here will change anything, but it's better said than not said.
     
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    However Daniel Craig is 54 and earned £73 million last year, Mbappe's career finishes when he is about 35. Apparently Man City posted a profit last year, so are people fine with what their players are being paid, is it just PSG posting losses that's the problem? It definitely doesn't seem that way, more just like people hate the fact young lads get paid very good money for being the best in the world at what they do.
     
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    Yep. I hate that fact. Sorry but I do.
    And there's a hell of a lot of young lads that get paid an obscene amount of money for being nowhere near the best in the world at what they do.
    We live in a society where nurses and other key workers graft long exhausting hours for a pittance and we're happy to say that it's wrong but in the same breath wave away footballers getting tens of thousands a week. It's wrong. And who's paying those footballers' wages? You and me. I'd much rather their wages were decimated, the cost of going to football, buying shirts etc similarly decimated and the difference in what we spend going to something of value.
     
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    If a club can break even or make a profit then the wages they are paying are appropriate. And I don't mean just one year, I mean consistently operate within their means without financial support.

    If a club makes a loss then the wages they are paying (for this is by far the biggest expenditure) are too high and the players are being paid more than they are worth. If your wages take the company you work for into debt then you are being paid more than your worth. And the financial injection to cover the short fall is cheating as this is supposed to be sport.

    If every player in the Premier League had their wage cut by 75% and every player in the Championship had their wage cut by 50% they would all still be fantastically well paid. With these cuts many of them would still be multi-millionaires by the time they retire, many others, and we're talking about really quite average players now, a long, long way from being the best in the world, could live very comfortably for the rest of their lives without ever having to work again. They would all be rich under any definition of the word while playing and by being sensible could remain comfortable for the rest of their days. And football wouldn't be in the ridiculous and precarious position it's in.

    They're all, every single last one of them, paid way more than they and the industry is worth because every club is making a loss.
     
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    Absolutely nonsense logic. Footballers' wages and nurses wages aren't linked, except from the fact that footballers will pay tax in PAYE, VAT on whatever they spend, and that goes to the treasury in tax who can then spend it on nurses. The idea that a shirt could cost £10 instead of £40 and somehow the government could get the £30 difference to "the nurses" more effectively is absurd.
     
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    I wasn't speaking in a wholly literal sense. Obviously. The fact that you are still prepared to defend a world where you think it's ok that footballers earn £10k a week and nurses earn £500 is interesting though. And I see you quote the old chestnut that they pay a lot of taxes. If Joe Bloggs the footballer earns £10k a week for being a pretty average footballer, pays 50% tax and still walks away with £5k a week he's STILL a damn site better off than a nurse. We're in a messed up society where you're happy with that.
    Wage cap the lot of them. Footballers, actors, whoever, and spread the wealth. And if we, as a general public, can afford to compensate footballers to the levels of tens, hundreds of thousands a week then we can afford a hike in income tax to pay nurses and teachers a hell of a lot better.
     
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    We as a general public don't compensate footballers, their compensation comes from ticket sales, broadcasting rights, and sponsorship deals. That money isn't going to end up with nurses and teachers. BT Sport aren't going to pay £385m to broadcast the local A&E department. On this forum we have threads asking why people keep voting Conservative, it's because there are too many nutters on the left, planning income tax hikes because footballers get paid too much or something. Genuinely baffling.
     
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    Now I know why I never bought anything by Rush
     
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    Off with his head! ;):D
     
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    Amen to that!
     
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