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Regarding "matchday experience", all I want is easy access to the ground, a clear view, and a pint at half time.

So if someone is saying that "all that matters is on the pitch" I would ask them:

What If they find that they can't park either close to the ground or for a reasonable charge, that they have to wait 20 mins or more to get in because most turnstyles are closed, that they find the bogs are closed or completely disgusting, that the marshals won't bother dealing with anyone who is swearing being racist or chucking missiles?

So it's not just what's on the pitch.

And this post isn't anywhere nearer to getting me my half time pint (my only gripe, apart from the general shabbiness).

Apart from what's on the pitch. You need a pint at least to suffer that.

 

Do you go to regular away matches?

 

Your argument origally was that any

I do understand that you said that anyone who did not agree with your thoughts on the match day experience " should be made to watch the match with their head in a barrel of sh_t " which to me is bang out of order

 

Am I a masochist with no other enjoyable use to be found for my time ? No

Though I watch every game I can on ifollow

 

If you go to away games regularly you will get an understanding of what's normal at football grounds. in general, at Oakwell, we get a decent deal. Small road courses for a fraction of other clubs. 20 minutes wait you say. I'd say learn patience because that isn't very long at all.

Parking isn't expensive in Barnsley at all.

 

I didn't say that. I never said anyone who didn't agree with me, that's something you've made up, because you can't follow the narrative. I said, and I quote:
"Every time we have a thread about "matchday experience" we get at least one post claiming that matchday experience doesn't matter to them at all and they can't understand why anyone can't go a few hours without a drink or something to eat. I personally believe anyone making such claims should be made to watch the game neck deep in a barrel of cold s4it."

It's nothing to do with agreeing with me, it's my annoyance at people putting forth spurious arguments that they don't have expectations about a matchday experience, yet want to belittle others who have different expectations to their own.

You want a certain level of comfort (as in you don't want to sit in the barrel), you want to be able to exit and enter the ground conveniently, you want to have a good view, you want probably a thousand other things, these are you matchday experience expectations. Don't pretend you don't have any just because one of yours isn't buying decent food or drink.

 

East Stand Upper toilets near the family area. Also on the staircase on the way up (for the posters that is). Boils my piss (not literally)

 

What he's getting at (in a way only Jay can) is that you claim you don't care about the experience, and therefore conditions, at oakwell as long as you can see 22 men kicking a ball around on the pitch for 90 minutes. He's taken that to the extreme and said that if that is the case then you would be happy to sit in a barrel of **** as long as you can still see the same 22 men kicking a ball around on the same pitch for 90 minutes.

Now obviously that's not true, there's no way you'd accept that (quite rightly) so whilst you claim the only matchday experience you care about is a view of 22 men kicking a ball around in reality you do demand a matchday experience of a clean and comfortable seat (or possibly even a clean and safe standing area). So when you say you don't care about a matchday experience you're wrong. You do care about one but your standards are just much lower than some peoples.

I'm not saying that to have a dig or tell you you're wrong or anything I'm just trying to explain that jay isn't saying your punishment for disagreeing with him should be sitting in ****. He was using sitting in **** as an extreme example of something that someone who truly doesn't care about the matchday experience would accept. The fact you wouldn't and shouldn't shows you do actually care about the matchday experience just on a much lower scale than others.

Personally the only bit that frustrates me is when people want to improve the club and calls for the better experience and are shot down by others because they personally don't care if the experience is there or not.
It's a bit like being a regular at a restaurant and saying to the owner "you know what, you need to buy new plates, theses ones have got cracks in them, oh and also if you redecorated the place you'd get more customers in" only for someone to shout across from another table "we dunt need clean plates wi'art cracks in em, all I care abart is what the dinner tastes like".
That person's view is valid for themselves but is harmful when they try to hold back the business simply because they don't care for improvements personally.

 

Amusingly enough someone had put up a new poster beginning of last season next to the 2016/17 one without taking it down. Later the new one disappeared while the old one stayed in pride of place.

 

You are right about not conversing because you claim that people who say that the matchday experience doesn"t matter should be made to watch the game neck deep in a barrel of cold s4it & that kind of comment defeats any type of reasonable comment you make , its the old way, if you cannot win an argument then resort to insulting comments

 

There’s a massive poster on the stairwell up to the east upper, north stand end up to the family area, that is advertising Cheltenham 2020.

 

You just don't get it. It's been explained really very well by others and you still don't get it.

 

My away fan experience has tended to be generally boat people class.

Cramped, treated suspiciously, making you feel a long way from home.

Your experience at Oakwell will be from the home supporter point of view. Which is not great as it is (though I nearly always get in quickly.)

I suspect the away fan will be treated less favourably still, down at Oakwell.

 

I need you to follow me around and translate. This is what Jay means, but he's mental, so he talks about people sitting in a barrel of s4it.

Exactly that Supertyke, I just can't be bothered to write all that out, so I write a couple of lines and people can take it or leave it. But yes, exactly what you've written.

 

Cheers. When I'm back in, I'll sort that. And get a meeting booked in with the relevant folk (Reds in the Community, Hospitality and ourselves) and make sure this doesn't happen again.

 

There's one behind the West Stand too. They're owned and paid for by an external company. We don't own them so can't remove, as per the contract. Mental, I know. We chased them for 12 months with no joy; turns out they went bust during COVID. We are sorting out a new partner for those spaces next season.

Thanks for the heads up though.

 

What are these posters you're referring to? Reds in the Community?

 

You cannot continue to contract with a company that's gone bust.

So they can be removed.

 

As I said, we are sorting out a new partner for those spaces for next season. Because they've gone bust.

 

Well you said you can't remove posters advertising an event from 2 years ago.

But you can.