Harry Kane you pathetic fceking cheat

What is the relevance of them wearing suits?

 

From where I was it looked a stone wall penalty. I couldn’t believe the referee didn’t give it straight away. Not seen it back yet though.

A part of me hopes he did dive against them though. But I’d be shocked if he has. Doesn’t seem to be his character.

He could’ve easily had his hattrick last night. We’re so lucky to have a striker of his quality, he’s genuinely world class. The positions he gets himself into to score shocks me every single time I see the man play.

 

I think you can thank the influence of sky tv for that.

 

The offside rule now. Is worse than it's ever been. I just wish they'd revert back. I don't mind Var on the positioning side of it. But I would want clear daylight between the defender and attacker. Not that the toe end of the boot was encroaching.

 

I hate diving, that wasn't a dive, if you're running and someone just taps your trailing leg as its coming through you are going to fall over.

 

It wasn't a dive but if it was the Germans would have done the same

 

One of the growing list of things that puts me off football these days. It's become so normal that you "have every right to go down" to "win" the foul. Its embarrassing to watch when you watch it in isolation, it's akin to watching a work in professional wrestling.

 

I always thought it was offside the moment the ball was played forward, regardless of if a defender subsequently got a touch.

 

A dive is an exaggeration or artificially creating an opportunity to fall over.

There was unintentional contact (on that basis alone in a sane world, that should mean it wasn't a penalty), an no doubt that has caused him to stumble. What it doesn't cause is the facial expression as if he's been shot, the arching of the back, the legs stopping moving altogether and the elaborate arm movements.

It was a dive, irrespective of contact or whether it was a penalty or not.

 

Being intentional or not sounds like it would open up a can of worms on their already peculiar rules. You would get players claiming they didn’t run into opposition players on purpose.

Contact, whether intentional or not, is a foul.

 

Completely disagree, that's why we have players now hanging a leg or intentionally bumping into players and pirouetting to the ground.

The judgement of intent should be at the heart of a decision.

 

I haven't seen it yet but booo conway and boooo milk snatcher and boooo train folk going on strike.

 

OK blazers then

 

Strongly disagree with that last sentence. It's a contact sport. If you lightly brush someone's elbow whilst they're stood still and they comically fall over, then it's not a foul.

 

Few things to pick up on here, was it a dive? No. Try running full pelt, have your leg tapped and knocked into your other leg, and see if you can stay upright.

Did Kane try to stay up? No. Did he make the most of it? Yeah. Don’t really like that - though most ref’s aren’t good enough to give fouls when people are just knocked off balance and stay up, though still impeded and prevented from getting to the ball. So no, it wasn’t a dive. It was a foul. (Though I concede not the most blatant).

Offside? He was in an offside position (which in itself is not an offence), when the ball was played forward. This was not to him or in his direction (not that this matters in law, but is relevant to some arguments), and the ball only came towards him when a defender played the ball deliberately (as opposed to it deflecting off him without him trying to play it). He was onside. And of course var checked that when checking the penalty.

The yellow card though was ridiculous. The lad didn’t mean to foul him. Intent should be considered when penalising with cards - though it does not have to be intentional to be a foul; contact with an opposition player which trips him or otherwise impedes his ability to play the ball is a foul, regardless of intent. But the yellow card? Silly. Obviously thought he couldn’t just give a foul and penalty without booking him.

I honestly don’t understand the need to berate people who have success. Harry Kane has scored 50 goals in 71 games internationally. That record is phenomenal, and anyone that cares to mention that he takes penalties or that he plays against crap countries - so does everyone else.

For example, Bobby Charlton might not have played San Marino - but he scored more goals against Northern Ireland in the home championship than anyone else he played - and they weren’t exactly great even with Best in later years. He got a hat trick in an 8-1 win v the USA when they were nobodies in terms of football, another three in another 8-1 win v Switzerland who at the time were equally woeful, and five goals in two games v the mighty luxembourg, net score 13-1. He didn’t take penalties and wasn’t really a forward in most of his games - but he made 106 appearances for his 49 goals. 22 in friendlies.

Rooney played ***** teams too. Rooney also took penalties on occasion. Didn’t score much in tournaments.

Kane has scored more goals against top ten opposition and certainly more in-competition goals, he has markedly fewer friendly appearances and so goals, only 5 of fifty in friendlies. Though the nations league is classed as competition and has replaced a lot of friendlies.

He scored 16 goals in 16 games for England in 2021; he will go on to be englands top goalscorer overall, very comfortably. He doesn’t necessarily play well every game - I don’t know one footballer that ever has. But he never hides or fails to put a shift in. I don’t get the critique tbh.

 

Could not agree more. Kane's a world class striker, the hammer he gets is pathetic.

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I think he's a great player and seems a decent bloke. I've no axe to grind with him. Just don't like diving.

 

For me the one thing he doesn’t get enough credit for is he nearly always delivers in big games. Wether that’s goals or effort and unlike most top strikers he seems genuinely to be a team player.

 

A team that features him sterling grealish cheating?

Who would of thought