Nixon says

Get the duff man in.

 

Every club has a recruitment team of some sort of course but you expect the major input into that is the 'manager' says what he wants based on his assessment of his squad and how he wants to play and he has the final say on the players put before him.

 

Duff works with a Director of Football at Cheltenham so our set-up won't be complete anathema to him although I'd actually prefer their model of a 'Football' person at the top.

 

I know we are not a wealthy club but surely whatever or whoever's on the board know what you get when you pay peanuts

 

It is significantly different. At those Clubs you mention, they are footballing people leading the recruitment

 

Michael Gordon at Liverpool is definitely not a football person. He’s the President of the Fenway group (owners) and has been for nearly 20 years

 

I have no idea who he is but I'm sure you are not suggesting that he, rather than Klopp, has a major say on recruitment, the playing style etc

 

I'm not sure why some Barnsley fans with dinosaur views can't get it into the skulls that footballs moved on and the majority of successful clubs do it this way.

Be it Klopp at Liverpool or Guardiola in the City group. Areta at Arsenal or Potter at Brighton. Tuchel at Chelsea or Conte at Spurs. x head coach at Barnsley or Marsch at Leeds. All are in a similar position.

We have a footballing person at Barnsley in KEA. We’ve had footballing people in that position 4/5 times with the 1/5 being Gauthier.




Dan Ashworth talks about it in that. We don’t have a DOF but we have a shared role with the CEO doing both and Robert Zuk on more of the CEO role that our approach doesn't fit.

The two teams in the prem that are old style are the two that are in the worst positions. Manchester United have been Manager picking and Everton. I think Manchester United have smelt the coffee big style and are finally changing. Everton, not a clue.

 

I was replying to your comment about the person leading the recruitment but yes he does have a major input into recruitment.
Klopp doesn’t have an open cheque book, he has to work within the budgets dictated to him.

 

I have no issue with the Director of Football / Head Coach formula but I do have an issue with how we are operating and feel it is limiting our choices as it is reducing interest in the role. I seemingly don't have the same level of confidence some have in those making the decisions or setting the direction but happy to agree to disagree

 

Everton had a DOF since 2018, was Marcel Brands and was replaced by Thelwell(built majority of Wolves squad when promoted) in Feb.

 

I think a little bit of water is going to have to pass under the bridge to demonstrate that our recruiting model can work sensibly and contribute to putting a good 11 out on the pitch.

Last season we had 13-14 forwards on our books. Many of which ended up being sidelined and ignored or loaned out to offset the cost. I can't think of any sane world where a head coach, manager, or whatever you want to call him would want his squad to have such a composition. Particularly when you then have a coach that had a tendency to sometimes only play one proper forward.

In Heckingbottoms time he had multiple number 10's foisted upon him. A position he had no desire to utilise in his system.

Our approach to recruiting hasn't always looked sensible, or coherent.

 

The one constant I have believe through ‘the spreadsheet years’ is that when we recruit non first team squad players there doesn’t seem to be a coherent policy to improve the first team.
In simplistic terms we seem to operate two recruitment policies:
1) To improve first team squad almost immediately.
2) Players for the future.

It seems to me as a generalisation when we recruit 1 we tend to have a level of success but when we recruit 2 it rarely works.
That tells me either our strategy is wrong or our ability to develop is wrong.

 

They had a good one in Marcel Brands.

The owner listens to the fans and different managers far too much.

They've had Oakwell type split too in the boardroom from what I was listening to a couple of months ago.

Kevin Thelwell new DOF and former Red Bull and Wolves (who have recruited well when he was there) and with Lampard things might chanc. I just haven't heard they are trying to improve things so I didn't put it above.

 

Well, this is all dragging on a bit now.