Carlton Morris to Luton

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  1. andytyke

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    I’m just thinking about getting back to championship and how much that is worth. You can’t just sell everyone. We didn’t last time or time before.

    I’d just put a silly price on and if it’s met so be it, other wise keep.

    no doubt he’ll be given away for peanuts
     
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    That’s because he probably is.
     
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    Bloody well hope not. Rather have Brian May.
     
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    I thought we had an extra year that we can exercise in his contract if we choose to but apologies if I’ve got that wrong.

    I honestly think he’s a £5m plus player from what I’ve seen for us.

    In terms of him been injury prone, he’s missed about 3 months of the 18 months he’s been with us with one injury. I’m not that concerned. It doesn’t feel like he’s an Isgrove / Ryan Williams type who constantly gets niggling muscle injuries & even them two have been able to get over their injuries since leaving us.
     
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    Don’t think we’d get anywhere near £5m. That kind of money is incredibly rare in L1. Especially when moving to a Championship club. There’s also generally a lot less money floating around, outside the elite clubs.

    For info, here’s a list of transfers from L1

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3
     
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    The difference this time round in league one is that the club are skint.

    Operating losses last time were around £4.8m. That was with a successful season and average home attendances of over 12,500. The club were able to sustain these losses by having plenty of cash on balance sheet and the sale of Brad Potts.

    This time the club has no money. There is an EFL loan to pay, and they are staring down an annual loss next season of £5m. The club has to sell players unless the owners want to stump up about the same amount again as they paid for the club.

    It’s not great, the players with value will leave but hopefully Duff can rebuild and ensure we are competitive.

    Time for new heroes......
     
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    There is the option for an extra year.
     
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    It’s only early days in the transfer market so surely we’re not going to take the first offer that comes along? Who knows we may even generate sufficient funds from the sale of Helik and Styles without the need to part with Carlton.
     
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    I know mate, but Luton Town? The ones who play in the middle of a ghetto housing estate? In a shed that holds about 8,000? Them ones who had a plastic pitch? The ones who wanted all away fans banning because their chairman was mates with Thatcher? In the Conference about 5 years ago? That Luton Town? Buying all our best players? Fuucking hell fire.

    I know he sounded a bit Wednesday but surely it's not unreasonable to have expectations a bit higher than being a feeder to Luton Town, a club that famously don't spend any money on transfers. The only place in the country that could beat Barnsley in a game of "**** dump top trumps".
     
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    I always hoped we'd keep Morris. I expected to lose Styles, Helik and Woodrow.

    But I genuinely believed that if we sold those 3 and got rid of some of the deadwood we could keep Carlton as the basis on which to build.

    So I'm disappointed, but not shocked. And the important bit isn't who we lose, but how we replace them
     
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    Hammers home what a disastrous season we've just had.
     
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    No comments in this thread about the player himself wanting to leave. Easy to say we shouldn’t sell, but we all know players hold the power and we know that some players told the club they wanted to move on. Maybe Morris was one of them?

    Talk of being worth £5m when that’s what Ivan Toney went for feels pretty unrealistic. Morris is one I thought and hoped we had a realistic chance of keeping, but that’s because I didn’t expect anyone to bid £2m for him. My memory might be wrong, but weren’t we feeding him injections to get him through games? He’s performed for one season combined his whole career and struggled for fitness in that time. The £2m feels about right.
     
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    Fantastic player as I think Morris is, this is probably the only point in his career when he's going to be worth any sort of significant transfer fee. £2 million is a reasonable fee for a player who struggles to get in 30 games per season due to injury. And that's unlikely to get better with age. He may go on and have a cracking season together with Woodrow. But it's just as likely that they'll not manage 40 games and 15 goals between them.
     
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    Unfortunately this sounds as though it could be very close to the mark.
    Sad but probably realistic.
     
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    Agree. I'm one of the first to jump on the club for making bad deals but I can't argue with £2m here.
     
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    Given his goalscoring record and his injury issues and his age £2million for Carlton Morris is a very good offer.
     
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    Are Luton saying it’s £2 million?
     
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    The Luton Town who were in the playoffs while we were relegated below 2 teams with points deductions. That Luton Town.
     
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    The ones that got to the play offs last season, the ones that are investing to get to the premier league , the ones that have played in the top flight before.
     
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