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  1. Tarntyke

    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I mentioned it earlier in the thread when I said Alistair Campbell was clued up about this but the Tory MP had no idea. Even Fiona Bruce remarked about it and was surprised the aTory MP didn’t know about the 40% cuts to Barnsley council.
     
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    It's the biggest, widest, most open goal Labour have ever seen electorally.

    I get your point with Starmer, and agree with the majority of it. My hope is that the Tories piss about a little longer and allow Labour to get to conference in Oct, where they can then officially consolidate policy and attack lines between the membership and the unions (don't you just love bureaucracy!).

    It's time to **** or get off the pot, I think if they don't win the election when it comes (which will be soon), Labour will never govern again.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    533. The JIC accepted ownership of the dossier and agreed its content. There is no evidence that intelligence was improperly included in the dossier or that No.10 improperly influenced the text.

    Report of the Iraq Inquiry, Executive Summary, Sir John Chilcott
     
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    I'm not sure that's fair, the needs of several of the outlying Doncaster towns are arguably greater than Barnsley...Edlington, Stainforth, Highwoods, Mexborough, Denaby, Rossington, Bentley, Askern, Dunscroft etc must be amongst the most underprivileged places in South Yorkshire.
     
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    Percentage growth is very misleading, 1% growth of an economy of £100Bn is identical to a 10% growth of a 10Bn economy. The British economy fell sharper and further during the post Brexit and pandemic period than all the rest of the G20. So our current high percentage growth looks better than it actually is.

    The British economy is still much smaller than it was in 2019 whereas the rest of the G20 (except Russia) now have economies which are getting back to or even exceeding the size they were in 2019. This is why the Tories only want to talk about percentage growth and not the actual size of the economy.

    A more sensible measure would be the growth in the economy since 2019. Sadly I don't have the figures for that but maybe you could find them, I'd be interested to see them.
     
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    I'm no supporter of Johnson, but just to correct one thing, it was Cameron who cut the Police to the bone, numbers have been rising since Johnson took over.
     
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    Barnsley has similar outlying towns for eg. Goldthorpe, Thurnscoe Wombwell, Hoyland. It’s not a race to the bottom
     
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    Although Goldthorpe/Thurnscoe are poor, they have seen some investment, I can say for a fact Wombwell and Hoyland are miles in front of most of the areas of Donny I mentioned.
     
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    Is the fall in the value of Sterling a 'worldwide' thing? The fact is that our balance of payments are in a dreadful state (in other words we are importing far more than we export, but of course this has nothing to do with Brexshit!). And everything we import is more expensive due to the fall in Sterling's value.

    But then again, the people who got away with labelling the global financial crisis as being down to Labour, are the same people claiming that all the current crisis is due to 'global' factors.
     
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    I'm not talking about the evidence dossier. I'm talking about the legality of taking military action and the pressure they put on Goldsmith.
     
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    Personally I would argue a % is fairer than £ but that is purely a personal view.

    Happy to take your comments about 2019 etc as accurate.
    Thanks for the replies as I said was trying to understand.
     
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    And how about Richmondshire, N. Yorks?

    How would that compare to those areas listed, or Barnsley/parts of Barnsley? Because the chancellor (at the time)'s seat definitely received a fair chunk of the levelling up fund. Low levels of deprivation, high levels of cash. Funny that.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...g-up-stitch-up-over-regional-deprivation-fund

    You can defend them all you like, they're a set of robbing ******** and this has been continually proven again and again. The Health Secretary refusing to initiate lockdown until after Cheltenham Festival (held in his constituency, where he holds shares in various stables), Dido Harding and her Husband in charge of Track and Trace. Let's maybe try to track and trace the £37 billion? That's make an interesting report, I bet. Turkish PPE not up to standard left stood on a runway. Hancock (again) giving a contract for PPE to his mate with no tender, despite him never having worked in the sector. This crap with levelling up. Robert Jenrick's cash for access with developers. Partygate. Rwanda. And then the Buddha of public gluttony, Johnson himself.

    Burn the lot of them.

    Sorry if that feels like a direct attack on you, it's not, I'm just sick to the back teeth of hearing excuses for the absolute shower of **** running our country and I needed a bit of a rant!
     
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    You forgot their refusal to go after the £10 billion lost to fraud during the pandemic.....
     
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    You forgot Bolton on Dearne....
     
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    Sorry, it's hard to keep track sometimes! :)
     
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    I think you're ranting at the wrong end of the stick... to be absolutely clear I wasn't defending them, merely pointing out to the previous poster that Doncaster is receiving levelling up funding, and that having spent all my life in both, in my view Donny overall is in a worse state than Barnsley.
     
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    That bloke that tried to make a dig at Starmer for having lunch/drinks at the constituency meeting before the byelection. Hope he feels a right twohat now. Smug numpty. Got a couple of claps.
     
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    As Attorney General and a QC, Lord Goldsmith would not have been susceptible to pressure to give an opinion that a course of action was lawful if he thought it was not. The situation was legally complex, and his advice indicated that the case for war was not unarguable. That much is clear from the paragraphs in the Report of the Chilcott Inquiry. But he makes clear that a case for war could be made out. There is no basis for parrotting that Campbell (who was not a decision maker) or Blair were war criminals, and actions to that end were struck out in the High Court. As indicated above, Parliament, by a roughly 75% majority twice endorsed the decision to take military action.
     
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    yeah i wasn't being specific to Johnson but the general tory achievements. They are experts at taking 100 out and celebrating putting 10 in whether it be hospital beds or police. My policing council tax has risen dramatically while at the same time almost 50% of reported crimes go without investigation. I would need to revisit the source but the data is available easily. The police commissioner or whatever they call it is a complete waste of time.
     
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