New Signing ?

I've read this so many times but when I went back to look at a thread around when Morris joined it was nothing like that. Most of us who had seen him play for Shrewsbury, for example, knew he was a right handful and said so. He'd had injuries and his goal return was just okay but a decent number of people knew that wasn't his principal role there and that he would have a good chance of getting higher returns in a better team and under the Val system. Yes, there were a couple of loons who probably had never seen him play but to my recollection that was a distinct minority.

 

The club employs 145 staff related to football activities, 19 commercial and 15 matchday. It’s a hell of a lot more than most people expect.

 

It would if there had been a share issue but there is nothing filed at companies house. The last filing was the change of the board composition.

Director remuneration of £425k across 3 directors.

 

It really is! Thanks for that…

 

Have you any way of finding out how much a year El-Ahmed is on a year? Would be interesting to know, you’d imagine he’d be up there as the highest earning CEO in this league given where he came from (CityGroup) and for the shambles of a job he’s done since he’s been in post, we’d probably save a few quid getting shut of him.

 

At what point is administration a probability

 

I would expect the CEO to be the highest paid director, just a shade over £196k in the accounts to 2021. That would be Dane so I don’t know what package our new CEO is on.

 

As I think you'll appreciate from our previous discussions DWLC I get all this. However without any exact numbers it just seems to me that we are trying to wring all the savings out of the First Team playing budget and not making (at least) proportionate savings elsewhere.

In the last published accounts (excluding matchday staff) there were 164 employees on the payroll. There probably needs to be what 40, give or take, in and around the first team including coaches and physios. Then, if you leave the 15-16 office and admin staff untouched that still leaves around 108 other employees to go at in some part at least in a situation where surely the priority is the First Team, alongside the normal running of the club.

In a scenario where income is reduced to say, £8m, give or take, wouldn't we expect around £5-£6m of it being spent on First Team costs and as you point out there is surely absolutely no justification for having things like director costs of £0.5m plus out of just an £8m turnover company?

 

Isn't the figure in the accounts his pay @Archerfield? So the cost to the club with Ers NI would actually be about what, another £27k-ish, so £223k?

 

When the prospect of the investors ever turning the business round disappears so will they.

At that point administration is a certainty unless the Cryne family step in. That is one of the many perils of being a minority investor in a club you love when the other investors have no emotional tie.

Hopefully the current management have the skills to restructure the finances to make the club both successful on and off the pitch.

 

Doubt very much he was one of highest earners though in Championship. Average CEO salary was £295k

 

That’s definitely fola onibuje

 

The average CEO salary for the year 20/21 is skewed heavily by Bournemouth’s CEO on £1.9m.

Certainly not a big earner in the Championship but, by a similar token, we are (were) one of the smallest businesses too.

 

Bet at Forest now Murphy is on almost double that and no one can say he hasn’t earned it tbf. In last 2 years as a CEO he’s reached the play off semis with us and won the play offs with Forest and is now getting ready for a season in the Premier league.

He spoke in riddles sometimes and used far too many Americanisms for my liking (divisional retention etc) but he knew what he was doing and did his job well. Losing him last season was just as damaging to us than losing Ismael and Mowatt IMO.

 

That's my memory, too.

 

Look, Woodrow barely managed more last season and he was still brilliant apparently…….

 

Not seen figures for last season, the £295k was from season before 19/20.
TBH , although I replied to you it wasn’t really directed at you I was just trying to say I doubt he was highest earners.

 

Cauley Woodrow has played 277 professional games and has scored 76 goals. He wasn’t great last season but let’s be reight no one for us was. Before last season he’d managed double figure for 3 seasons running with 2 seasons coming in the Championship.

The City lad we’re linked with as correctly pointed out by someone earlier has scored 2 goals in the last 2 seasons with his last goal coming last year. I’m willing to give players a chance before judging but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t at least concerned if that’s the calibre of striker we think will replace both Woodrow and Morris.

Had we gone into this season with a strike force of Morris and Woodrow I’d be confident we’d at least finish in the top 6, now I haven’t a clue where we’ll finish but I don’t see us anywhere near the play offs with this current side.

 

I will continue to disagree with your assertion that "Morris was going to be awful if you read the predictions on here" as the thread I read was nothing like that at all.

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I'm genuinely not feeling the overwhelming waves of vocal negativity tbh.