Michal Helik linked with Lech Poznan

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  1. Tyke_67

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    Not over my dead body.......:)
     
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    I'd visit Bramall Lane or Elland Road to watch Spurs or Arsenal.
     
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    I don’t know why you’re surprised… “Barnsley take less than market value for their best players shock!”
     
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    It’s a worrying sign of our financial position if the club are accepting that much, having already sold Woodrow, Morris and Brittain.
     
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    We’re absolutely skint. I doubt the players we’ve already sold cover more than half the deficit.
     
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    I know we're skint, but we've probably cut Helik's asking price by about half as the transfer window has gone on. Would've thought that the incoming transfer fees + wages taken off the bill should be up to around 5m now, with the board reportedly putting 1m in, and various clauses kicking in to reduce the wage bill further.
    Given the board said they would put more in if needed, that would've been a better option than only getting a guaranteed 1.5m Euros for your best defender
     
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    They're a bunch of greedy ********.
     
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    nope, not me :)
     
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    £1.5m is an insult. I like how they charge other clubs way below market value for our star players, but keep ticket prices in line with it. I'll keep my money if BFC aren't interested
     
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    You don't think selling Woodrow, Morris, Brittain and even Schmidt and Christie Davies won't have made us four million?
     
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    It's Michael Duff that needs to be asking these questions. I can't help but think we're a bout to ruin a decent up and coming manager here.
     
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    It’s quite simple really. A player is only worth what someone is willing to pay. If there’s a bidding war then we hold the upper hand but it looks like only Poznań are interested so all we can do is maximise the value of that deal with add ons etc. or risk hanging on to a potentially unhappy player whose subsequent value is only going one way.
    In the case of Styles, I assume we’ve put too big a price on his head and hence, there are no takers.
     
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    Just an important point to put out there.

    The contractual reduction in salaries upon relegation. Obviously we don't know who has/had the clause, nor what the level of reduction is/was.

    The thing is, as we sell players, we likely reduce the benefit we clock from those clauses. We' save all the salary, yes (unless we have to pay them off to a degree, like maybe Schmidt and Christie-Davies), but it would be double counting to include money saved from those clauses if they are no longer here.

    So say Woodrow had a 20% clause. We'd save say £100k. Great. We sell him. We save say £500k. But the £100k can't be included again, so the overall value and percentage of the relegation clauses are reduced. If that makes sense?
     
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    Makes perfect sense, and I was thinking about reduction clauses for the remainder of the squad, after departures of Morris, Woodrow, Brittain, Schmidt, Palmer, Adeboyejo, Miller, Halme, ICD plus anyone I've forgotten.

    To be honest, the possibility of a fee clause in Helik's contract had only occured to me after posting the comment you quoted. I'd actually feel a bit more comfortable if that was the case, rather than feeling we have no option but to sell him for little over 1m with the hope of add ons being met.
     
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    The tweets quoting the fee for Helik also state that he's also got some other options. I reckon we probably put a fee on Helik's head, which was met with no interest and had to reduce accordingly.

    I don't know if the player has ruled out a move to another English club himself, but it seemed strange that there was no Championship clubs rumoured to be interested. Burnley lost both their centre backs, Blackburn lost Lenihan and Van Hecke, then when Burnley signed Harwood-Bellis, that left Stoke needing a replacement and so on. But no Championship clubs seemed interested in Helik. Maybe we, as fans, rate him as more valuable than he actually is?
     
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    I don't think it will ruin him as I think he will go on to be a successful manager elsewhere but I just can't see success here with the current set up above him. Time will tell but it doesn't look good.
     
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    All a bit Groundhog Day this, innit? People putting 3/4/5 million on his head. His market value is the maximum amount another team is willing to pay. By definition, that's what market value is. Whether us as fans agree with that figure, is neither here nor there. We're left with two very simple choices: accept the maximum offer that comes in, or reject it. If we reject it, we won't be able to bring other players in. Keeping him and bringing in new players isn't an option.
     
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    If it enables us to get active in the transfer/loan market then we have to take the money.....the more time goes on the worse the position we will find ourselves in. Unless we can add goals to the team then we will be closer to the relegation zone than the play offs and yet we have some talented players. Ideally someone who can cross a ball from the wing back position (we seem to have solved that issue on the left) and another striker is a must and quickly
     
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    Don’t worry about the financial short fall I’m buying a programme on Saturday
     
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    That change of playing ethos to raise better transfer fees really did work wonders on and off the pitch.
     

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