Souness - men's game.

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  1. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

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    Have we had a thread on this?

    If so I've missed it? Admin please delete or merge, if so.

    Have to say I raised an eyebrow at the time...

    That said I don't think in context it was anything other than a bad choice of words myself. And it was a bad choice of words, "a physical game" would have been better, but it was a comment on a game of two male teams in his defence. Please offer differing opinions.

    https://www.football365.com/news/so...sses-star-labels-liverpool-legend-disgraceful

    Assuming it hasn't been covered I'll get the popcorn out. I can see arguments on both sides....

    PS given the chants at the Bristol City match the Lionesses & the crowd at those games were a total breath of fresh air.
     
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    Everything anyone in the public eye says or writes is now scrutinised so much.

    He was talking about a game between two men in his defence but maybe should have worded better however it seems the clickbait media has jumped on Beth England's response.

    Tough one but could have been handled better by both parties.
     
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    I don't think Souness will give a f cu k. Money and medals he's got.
     
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    My view certainly. Very interested what others think, including the female posters. I'm only offering a partial defence to Souness on those grounds. Totally happy to hear other views, just a discussion point. I'm happy to be called "Woke" every day of the week.
     
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    I pretty much agree with what JT has put. I don't think it has been covered on here by the way.

    Poor choice of words I guess. Think he just meant to say that it was a proper old school, physical match.
     
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    He won't have made that much money as a player. More than you or I certainly. Will have made more as a pundit though.
     
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    He was talking about a male game of football though. If it had been a dig at women's football fair enough. Some people want to be annoyed and virtue signal. I bet there are loads of women who couldn't give a toss what he said.
     
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    I'll add he signed a catholic for Glasgow Rangers. The guy has balls. Not saying this comment was well considered though.
     
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    I've definitely done similar things, and my take is that when somebody calls you out it's a good opportunity to reflect. It should only really be an issue when people insist on sticking to their guns.
     
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    Can't see anything wrong in what he said. It was pretty obvious he meant that the Premier League has gone a bit soft and this game was a return to the old fashioned values. At no stage has he mentioned the women's game. Some people just want to read into it to suit their own agenda.
     
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    Nor should he, it was a confected storm in a non-existent teacup. No surprise to see ambitious non-entities like Aluko fanning the flames of course, given its the only way they can raise their profiles.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    There was absolutely no need for it to escalate the way some tried to hype it to.

    I was more disappointed in some of the attempts to make it go viral than in what was said. It was clear what he meant, but as always we have to create drama with anything that could perhaps have been worded slightly better. However Sounness is from an era of football that was a man’s game, and not a boy’s game like it sometimes feels like.
     
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    Mo Johnston?
     
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    If anything he's most qualified to say what he said.
     
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    He said nothing wrong in the context he meant it. Shows what a crazy world we live in that folks are jumping onto him over this. Bonkers…..
     
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    Seems a fairly innocent comment and taken out of context.

    I personally don't like Souness and have no time for his opinions ever since the League Cup replay at Oakwell where he crocked Ray McHale before the ball left the centre circle at the kick off. He was one of the dirtiest players of his or any other era, Norman Hunter was a saint by comparison. Dirty Leeds would have loved him.

    I don't generally bear grudges...:mad::mad::mad:
     
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    Karen Carney was on the panel as a pundit i read. She had a dig at Leeds when they got promoted to the prem during lockdown and got criticised by Leeds United themselves amongst many others yet a lot of other female pundits jumped to her defence.

    She wishes to make a career in the media and also to be treated equally yet had a male pundit said the same i am sure he would have taken his medicine and carried on.


    On another issue i saw Gary Neville and Jamie Redknapp have a good post match ding dong which was fiesty but both made valid points.
    Would a male pundit be criticised if he spoke the same way to a female pundit after a game where their views may be different?
     
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    Yes. That was pretty progressive at the time & he got death threats over it.
     
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    LOL, love that recollection.
     
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