Brighton’s 3rd

It baffles me at times VAR

 

Ridiculous decision that

 

The defender would have made the clearance whether the Brighton lad went for it or not. Totally spoils the game does VAR.

 

Brendan Rodgers next PL manager to go?! He's criticised the club for their lack of incoming transfers...

 

I'd expect it tonight, race between him and Steve Cooper down the road.

 

I'd be shocked if Cooper was sacked. He's done a phenomenal there.

 

If it takes 5 minutes for VAR to come to a decision I can’t see how that can possibly be defined as a clear and obvious error

 

He may have done a phenomenal job in getting them promoted, but they've spent nearly £200m with accompanying wages, just to sit second bottom with -10 gd.
Their owner's plan is not to be happy with one season there. Cooper won't get much longer imo.

 

Agree think the owner is on record as saying he doesn’t expect to be in a relegation fight

 

VAR is a great idea but its being used by idiots' they should use it like they do in rugby league ie only when the ref requests it' its killing the game atm and they need to stop with their bloody silly lines to see if a fingernail is offside.

 

Controversial but I'd like the offside rule changed. Instead of a body part being offside, there has to be daylight between players. As in you can be a whole yard offside (as of now), but the goal would still count as long as your trailing leg or something is onside. Would probably be a mare for the linos though.

 

But if we retain the offside rule, it doesn’t matter where you draw the line, there will always be marginal decisions. At the moment, if someone’s armpit is beyond the last defender, the player is offside, but it may take VAR ages to determine this. If you have the line as a yard beyond the last defender, there will be a player who’s armpit is just on that line, so VAR will again take ages to determine this.

However, if you have the line anywhere other than level with the last man, every potential decision would have to be determined by VAR anyway, because you’re right, how can you then expect a linesman to determine where the offside line is. Having it as level with the last defender is the only way to give him something visual to measure it by.

As it is, the decision to disallow the goal for Brighton was technically the correct one. The bloke who tried the overhead kick was offside as the ball was kicked and was interfering with play. The question should be, how did the linesman miss this, cos he was noticeably offside. But once he has missed it, so what, get on with the game, give the goal.

VAR for anything other than goalline technology is crap*. Officials get things wrong. Players get things (more things) wrong. Managers get things wrong. Live with it. For every team done out of something there’s a team that gets away with it, so it’s swings and roundabouts. Yes, home teams with big crowds will get more decisions, but that is for the ref reviewer to go over with the refs afterwards, to try to train them to ignore the crowd and give what they see.

I can remember us scoring against Chris Woods, when he was playing for Norwich, when the ball hit the back of the little triangle bit (the stanchion? - something like that) in the top corner of the goal in front of the Ponty and bounced back out. Woods clearly was unable to see this, as he was facing the wrong way, so he thought it had hit the crossbar. The ref gave the goal and Woods chased him to the halfway line, remonstrating with him. He then had to trudge, with a face like thunder, back towards the goal, with all the Ponty end laughing at him, which made him more angry. Now had the ref been able to take him to a little monitor to show he was right, Woods would have had to accept it, and the Ponty would have missed out on his strop, laughing at him, and watching him get more and more annoyed as the game went on. All that fun would have gone.

And a few years later, all those Dirty Leeds players who were complaining about John Deehan handballing it before equalising would have been proved right, and nobody wants to see that. And who would remember Scott Jones, had VAR given Redders the chance to score the last minute penalty at Old Trafford. And who would want to deny my mate Darrell’s 30 year loathing of George Courtney, had VAR spotted that Halle did dive and was nowhere near the sodding penalty area anyway?

if VAR is going to stop games for 5 minutes because someone’s armpit is offside, then it’s nonsense. As Jimmy says, it can’t be clear and obvious if it takes that long. One thing that always puzzles me is the lack of margin of error regarding when the ball is played. Some of the VAR decisions I’ve seen have called players offside by millimetres, and lines are drawn to determine which bits of body are offside. Nobody ever goes back to determine the moment that the ball is played though. We just accept that VAR have pressed the pause button at exactly the right moment, and for someone to be millimetres offside, that pause button has to be precise to the millisecond. So what if the pause button was put back 0.2 seconds. It would be barely noticeable as far as ‘playing the ball’ goes, but now the striker’s little finger is no longer offside. Or if it was put forward 0.2 seconds a player previously determined to be onside is now off. I’ve often wondered why nobody challenges when the action should be paused.

And because of this I think there should be a margin of error built into close offside calls, in much the same way as the ‘umpire’s call’ in cricket, where the powers that be rightly realise that no computer programme can 100% say where the ball would have gone had it not hit the batsman’s pad, so if the ball was determined to have just clipped the wicket, or just missed (I can’t remember the exact measurement - half the width of the ball or a stump, something like that), the umpire’s decision stands, It means that you get batsmen walking off, shaking their head because Hawkeye suggested that the ball would have missed the stump by a whisker, but back in the day he would have had to walk off the moment the finger got raised, no questions asked.

*Actually, not strictly true. As well as determining whether a goal has been scored it should also be used to identify and shame cheating, diving gits, who should subsequently be put in the stocks outside the ground for fans to lob rotten tomatoes at them. That would improve the game no end.

 

It wouldn't be in cricket. It should be " umpires call"

 

Posted November 2019 to get rid of VAR.Said before it came in it would ruin football with the way everything is scrutinised to the nth degree. It well on its way.Even goal line technology is not perfect as we have seen on a couple of occasions.The only good thing is it creates loads more talking points than when we had ONE ref.Watch Jamie O,hara on skysports.Trouble is he might get sack for saying what most pundits dare not say.

 

3 awful VAR calls this weekend. Really really bad, the Brighton one was a joke. Unreal strike ruled out wrongly IMO.

But then you get the West Ham and Newcastle ones. Those two were truly tragic. Absolutely horrendous calls.,

 

Var was brought in for red cards and offsides. Not to rewind 30 secs or a minute b4 the play to search for a foul, if the ref doeant give a foul then goals should stand. They are over complicating everything