With Truss in charge

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  1. Stephen Dawson

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    Truss out.
     
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    She sounded like a malfunctioning Sat Nav.
     
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    "When possible, make a U-turn! W-w-w. MAKE A U-TURN!"
     
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    Theresa May the naughty little scamp. She's absolutely spot on and so was Truss with her response. You could see on the face of Angela Rayner that she agreed.

     
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    If the conservative female PMs is an example of what female premiers can do, only a moron would need an explanation as to why, sometimes it’s a bad idea. If the performance of Thatcher is anything to go on , thank god Labour haven’t yet gone down that road.
     
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    In case you haven't been paying attention, two of them are there by default, not elected by the people. The other one is Thatcher. Case closed.. o_O
     
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    May was elected , only just but she was elected although she had to do a deal with the DUP to get things done .
     
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    That's what I meant..;)
     
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    Well I’m sure now Truss is in charge rather than Starmer, @Tekkytyke can explain to us why the £ is lower in value than at any time since 1985 when that other famous Labour PM Margaret Thatcher was PM.

    The problem with the actual economy is that it doesn’t really follow the pattern that the Telegraph describes.

    Whilst Labour governments might waste ‘money we haven’t got’ on improving public services and infrastructure projects. The Tories have always spent the ‘money we haven’t got’ propping up their rich mates.

    Truss yesterday thinking she was smart pointing out that Tories ‘liked people to keep more of their own money’, what she meant was people who own energy companies, not people like us who are now spending an extra £100b of our money so that the energy companies can keep their excess £170b profits.

    Might have been missed by some, but that £170b figure is the figure of ‘more profits than they expected’. It’s not profit, it’s excess profit.
     
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    Exactly, this should be hammered home at every opportunity, lest ordinary folk (delete as appropriate) forget/ bury their heads in the sand/ simply don’t care/ quite like like living in such an unfair society/sadistic
     
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    The Tories have had 3 female prime ministers. Of those, 2 were removed from power by their own cabinet. If I were Truss, I'd be keeping a close eye on her closest allies...
     
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    It’s a fact that every single Tory government in my lifetime has taxed working people more than every Labour government. But because they promise ‘low taxes’ they attract people too lazy/ stupid/ bigoted to fact check.

    They literally applaud themselves for promising lower taxes in the same week that our tax burden becomes the highest since the 50’s.
     
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    The last 3 Tory PMs have been removed from office by Boris Johnson. I’d put money on it becoming 4. ;)
     
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    I will try... albeit I have no faith in Truss or any politician to sort out teh current mess. The war in Europe, with the knock on effect of energy crisis, and cost of living creating rapidly increasing inflation combined with the upheaval and mess caused by Brexit has caused investment to gravitate across the Atlantic. It is no coincidence that the Dollar has strengthened massively to the point that in may even reach parity with sterling although it is also noticeable that the Euro is also very weak.

    I have to say the idea mooted (pretty sure Truss did not come up with it) of disconnecting Renewable and Nuclear from the current 'one size fits all' pricing structure is a good idea rather than simply a 'one off' windfall tax which does not actually target the multinational producers making the excess profits. The CAP only hits the suppliers/distributors who pay the going rate to producers (albeit they are basically divisions of the same production supply chain but artificially separated into different companies for tax purposes ) but those producers continue to make obscene profits. Meantime the taxpayer and consumer pick up the tab to compensate the suppliers.

    The real problem is that Truss will, no doubt agree a deal that 'compensates' companies for loss of profits short term by setting a high rate for a fixed long term period that result in consumers and taxpayers paying way over the odds for years to come to the benefit of those companies' shareholders.

    It is the corrupt 'scam' energy system that needs fixing. Currently, the Worldwide supply price is based on the source that commands the highest price i.e. Oil and Gas. The huge profits therefore are because renewables and Nuclear supply and production costs have remained stable but the 'one (high) price fits all' is applied regardless of source. Oil and Gas is in short supply (in Europe). The problem is there is no easy domestic solution as it would need 'buy in' from all countries and OPEC including Saudi, USA so good luck with that! The longer term answre is to become self sufficient (no **** Sherlock) where we can then dictate domestic supply price based on production costs e.g. lower for renewables and Nuclear compared to any Oil /Gas we purchase.

    P.S. If I am continuing to live in your head will it remain free or are you going to start charging me rent;).
     
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