Twitter Spat

You've two options on Twitter.

1. Ignore it.
2. Get off twitter.

I'm all for her having a pop back, but all it does it give the f.cking weirdos more ammo to keep going & go harder at her. It doesn't show anyone in a good light.

 

What's the unicorn for?

 

Exactly.

We are basically in exactly the same position right now as we were when Mansford came in. I don't get the aggro towards him.

 

Gally, I think you need to have this as a sticky because it needs explaining to some on here on a daily basis.
The new controlling group have been in place, what, four months? And yet there are some who expect them in that time to have completely renovated the ground, improved the fan experience and created a promotion ready squad with absolutely no money.
There's two things here. One...BFC have NEVER had owners who have put in the sort of money some people want spending.
Two....yes the ground, the fan experience and the squad absolutely need attention but progress on those fronts can only start to be assessed in about 12 months time.
Some things can be judged in the moment like the Hex fiasco. That was sorted though I did notice at the time that certain individuals who are currently slating the club for all and sundry saw no problem with that deal.
In the meantime we have an ownership group who may or may not have the better interests of the club at heart. It's too early to tell.
For now though we have a sizeable collection of muppets who are intent on alienating people who have barely had the chance to stop the ship sinking.

 

The ‘new’ board are livid at the actions of the ‘old’ board that left things in a mess.

A change in voting proxy has given one faction more power than they had previously. Other than that there are no changes. The voting proxy could change back anytime.

As stated by others I’m in the not a penny more camp. I miss attending but until things change then I’m out.

 

Agree with most of this except (maybe) the 12 month progress part.
The reason I say this is if we had a settled environment(budget,team, league positioning etc ) then absolutely. But the reality is we currently don’t have any of that so it becomes a real chicken and egg conundrum of given the budget is what it is do the owners invest in the ground experience etc and hope that medium to long term more money comes in to create some momentum or do they put as much resource into the playing side to try to create a winning team and some stability.
Real tough call and clearly no right or wrong answer and glad not one I have to make.

 

The world would be a better place without social media

 

As with many things the truth on these things is in all probability at neither extremity of views.

To suggest that the new board are not culpable in any way shape or form for the current position is overly simplistic. The US owners chose to have Conway as their appointed representative and, when in cahoots with Chen Lee, gave him the ability to run the club how he saw fit. If the other board members had been so concerned with the actions they could have chosen to be more vocal or resign their position. Now we don't know what happened in board meetings and the level of challenge but it would not be uncommon for a board member to resign their position if they were so at odds with the direction of the club.

The part which I personally find highly unusual is the granting of a fixed term proxy position. To provide an individual with a four year fixed term proxy is unheard of but yet supposedly sophisticated New York investors essentially gave Conway four years without recourse to run a football club how he saw fit. A guy who at most owned 7.5% of the club, an intial investment of barely £700k

On the other hand there is a new board in control, admittedly with exactly the same owners behind the scenes. Maybe the New York investors have come to their senses but more likely they saw the value of their investment tanking under the stewardship of Conway and decided to align with the other shareholders resulting in Conway and Lee being marginalised.

The question going forward is what are they going to do different? If they too don't wish to invest further than their initial purchase amount then its hard to see, despite the initial plaudits, very much changing in the running of the club, beyond a greater involvement in the community (not a bad thing).

So for anyone expecting instant change it's more likely going to be how the club interacts with fans as opposed to wholesale changes as the club are still skint.

 

They didn’t is the answer.
They have him four years to represent them, without Chien support he wouldn’t have had the free reign.
Chien had the power all the way through that time to remove him but presumably chose not to.

 

Yep. Good call.
Oakwell as it is today is the result of money from player sales not owners ploughing their own money in. I don't see that changing. The thing is, even if we do have a couple of future big money players in the squad it will be 12 months at the very least before we get any money for them.
I think investment in the squad has to come first as soon as we are in a position to do it.

 

Sorry, but I can't stop thinking SPITTER TW4T. Childish, I know..

 

The same guy who has been Conway’s anchor investor at every club he’s invested in?

If you were taking a minority stake and were aware that your proxy representative and his anchor investor plus your holding gave your proxy total control do you not think it would be somewhat rash to offer a four year non breakable proxy agreement?

 

Think that depends on what you knew at the time.
At the point of our purchase was it not only OGC they had. If so then they might be forgiven in thinking it was a successful partnership being forged.
Now I would seriously question the wisdom.

I find it interesting that generally people slate either Conway or the ‘new’ board.
Chien seems to have avoided some of the most harshest criticism.

 

I think that is down to the fact that the ‘strategy’ is down to Conway. He sold the notion that their use of data would enable them to make squillions from player trading.

In my mind Lee is an investor who simply believed the hype. Off the back of OGC Nice and the financial success they probably got very excited at the easy money to be made.

Turns out they lucked out on deal one which built the hubris and the subsequent success has been pretty limited.

 

He says on social media.?!!

 

This thread shows just how hard it is to please the fanbase. This is just about a twitter post, and some feel it's unprofessional and some feel it's refreshing and a good thing.

 

Who is she ?