That’s not how to win a cricket match

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  1. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Just seen the end of the womens ODI and India have gone right down in my estimation for that way to win a match really against the spirit of the game not impressed and it’s a shame as it was looking like a close finish
     
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    MiserablePontyEnder Well-Known Member

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    Disgrace really.

    I know it's in the rules (I've had it done to me once) but shouldn't the non striker nominally, although not in the rules, be given a warning?
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Yep, usually given a warning.
     
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    Also usually you do that when the non striker is trying to cheat by being down the pitch when the ball is bowled. At the time the ball would have been bowled she was in she just stepped forward expecting the ball to be on the way very poor from. India for me leaves a bad taste and I expected better
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter whether it's the mens team or now the women's team. Always controversy with the Indians.
     
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    I don't follow cricket, so apologies if I'm missing something.

    When the Lionesses spent the final 10 minutes of the cup final in the corner, they were applauded for excellent game management. They played to the rules and took the trophy. Fair play to them.

    If India haven't broken any rules today, what's the problem? And again, my cricket knowledge is limited, but a mankand (I had to Google it) is easily avoided... isn't it?
     
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    Simply because it is shocking sportsmanship , it is the unwritten law that you hold the ball against the stumps & issue a warning . I played the game for the best part of 45 years & only once did someone take the bails off & appeal but thankfully the captain over ruled the decision by asking the batter to return & what makes this worse today is that India had already won the series & should still have had enough in their locker to take the final wicket & win the contest in a sporting way.
     
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    Thanks for explaining.
     
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    MiserablePontyEnder Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.

    It's poor form. Wouldn't have had a problem in the bowler had issued a warning beforehand.
     
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    Shithousery. The Indian captain should have intervened. That is If the decision could be reversed.
     
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    Just seen it. Massively out of order that and against the spirit of the game.
     
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    Shocking sportsmanship, it's like when a player intercepts a throw in which was supposed to be going to the goalkeeper in return for kicking the ball out after an injury. It's legal but frowned upon by fair.minded sportsmen.
     
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    Expect the unexpected. No rule was broken. England were 1/12 to win before they started batting, so the poor batting when victory should have been easy is where people should look.
     
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    I generally don’t have an issue with mankads. The one a few years ago where Jos Buttler was done by (I think) Sri Lanka, was perfectly valid because he was taking the Micky with how early he was moving to back up.

    But that one today was poor. She never has any intention of bowling the ball and basically wrong footed the non-striker.

    If you can do that, then you’ve taken the concept of backing up out of the game completely, because she could probably get a run out every ball.
     
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    This.

    ‘Mankad’ing is for me justified where the non-striker is taking the piss pinching yards at a time.

    This one was so bad - her bat was grounded behind the crease when she was into her delivery stride beyond the stumps. She wasn’t stealing anything.

    It was clearly just a bowler rattled after a bit of a tenth wicket partnership that intentionally went for it. Very, very poor if you ask me.

    If that’s the way cricket is going I don’t want any part of it.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    I was always taught to guard your wicket and crease until the ball was dead. She was out of her crease before the ball was bowled, and therefore by definition (intent doesn't matter) was gaining an advantage.

    Schoolgirl error.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Sadly cricket is already gone tbf.
     
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    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    Can someone explain what happened, but in numpty terms? I've googled mankad but still not really sure whats gone off...
     
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    Mankad is the modern term for gonads.
     
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    Except, if you watch it again, the umpire actually calls dead ball when the bowler stops.

    Also, if you’re guarding your crease until the ball is dead, you can only ever score boundaries.
     

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