William hill toss pots

Had a 4 team acca yesterday,us, Peterborough,Burnley and Donny,other 3 wa all winning UpTo us scoring in the 90 the minute,my bet got suspended which is the norm when a goals scored so I'm sat there waiting ready to cash out looking at 300 pound, 20 secs later and Cardiff equalise taking the cash out amount down to 18 pound, scandalous tbh how long it took suspending our game,gutted tbf.

 

Happens a lot with the cash out rule, particularly towards the ends of games. I think there is a lot of abuse of the “suspension” of bets during periods of games.

I had some money on De Bruyne to score last week and I was going to cash out on 60 minutes. Gundogan starting warming up on the sideline straight after the second half kicked off so they suspended the bet for over 10 minutes.

 

I backed a horse with William Hill online and it won but weighed in light and was disqualified. They paid me out but took the money back. I argued that had I put the bet on in the bookies and they'd paid me they couldn't take the winnings back. The smarmy gets agreed. I closed my account there and then.

 

Bent as rats backs
I had a good season winning with them last
I've noticed this year I'm struggling to place bets.they also do a scratch of the day where if you put a 5 bet on they give you a free 2 bet. I put it on Anderson last year to score first won about 300 thru the season .this year I can't get scratch of the day on until I've placed my bets?
Decided to chalk them n go with sky bet but noticed similar bets are way down on prices.
Cant win with these guys just do it for a bit of fun.

 

I don't think they're obliged to offer cash out are they? Plus it's never in your interest to take it anyway, otherwise they wouldn't offer it.

 

If it was only 20 seconds to Cardiff scoring, that match would have been suspended anyway as would your cash out

 

Exactly. No time for betting or bookies but there is a delay from live in stadium to it appearing on SSN/ BBC etc... if they didnt suspend immediately it would be abused.

 

I don't get why people ever want to take a cash out. The idea of a bet is you want all your selections to come in for the end prize offered. Bookies don't offer good value on cash out either.

 

It’s a completely bent industry. I had accounts with several bookmakers so I could take advantage of the various offers, special odds etc. it meant I typically took more out than I put in.

A couple of weeks ago I had emails from all of them within minutes of each other telling me they were closing my accounts for abusing the promotions.

The way I see it, if you offer a promotion then people have the right to use it. Just proves that the house really does always win, because if they don’t they close your bloody account!

 

Sometimes it is. I've rarely cashed out and then wished I had.You've got to assume that they reason they're in business so long is that they make more than they lose.

 

Bookmakers are in reality only middlemen. You are really betting against other punters.

 

It’s a bent industry because they’ve chosen to stop trading with you as you were using and abusing promotions to take money off them?

Sorry, that seems a bit entitled. You got money out of them for a good while.

Any business is there to make money. If you manipulate their offers to make it so you only ever win, they are well within their rights to stop that. There is a difference in that and for example having a run of winning bets and being up overall.

I understand some people being against the betting industry given gambling addictions ruin lives and families - but the amount of safeguarding in place to try and mitigate against that surprised me (the Mrs works for one of the big firms), they do much, much more to help with that issue than say McDonalds does to help protect against obesity or the alcohol producers/pub chains do for alcoholism.

Online bookies are what they are. They are there to make money. However they are more regulated than most other things, do more to make sure they aren’t profiting from vulnerability than other comparable things as mentioned above, and compared to a lot of companies, the one my Mrs is employed by has a much higher moral compass than a lot of other employers, for example they paid all their staff in full throughout lockdown, but didn’t take a penny in furlough money from the U.K. or Irish governments, just self funded it; they also, unlike other betting and retail companies, pay at a rate above minimum wage.

They are profit seeking businesses though, not ‘not for profit’ organisations.

 

Very good point.

 

What I find obnoxious is the fact they lure people in by offering promotions.
They should ban bookies for doing such things. Telling punters to be gamble aware then taking the michael by offering such deals. The more people that take advantage is ok in my book if they know how to back out if necessary.
The amount of people taking their own lives is a massive tragedy.
How many bookmakers follow the same path.?
You reap what you sow.

 

It's bent because they will invest millions of pounds, employ hundreds of experts and use immense computing algorithm power to do everything they can to find new, devious ways of screwing the punter. And that's fair game to them. They happily take the last pennies from desperate people, with very little actual safeguarding done, but if they even sniff that one or two people might have fiddled them for a few quid here and there, they shut it down immediately and treat you like a criminal.

 

I backed a horse in America three weeks ago. In the card on Coral. It said it was trained by William Mott and owned by Khaled Abdulla. I backed it at 40/1. The horse I backed on the card supplied by Coral won. It wasn't that price and the name of the horse was different. Even though it was their error they wouldn't pay me out. Technically my horse didn't win an error with the racecard.

 

???

 

i had my billy hills account gubbed other week, late on i put an in-play bet on a mexican game at 0-0, went 1-0 up other team red card too but their odds remained at 4/5, with all other bookies were 1/20 going into injury time, put another 10 on to see if would take, then 40 then 50 and all paid out and withdrew,
next day email from them saying there was a technical glitch and had resettled my bets at 1/20! but tough cos i'd already withdrawn it,
i also put a £5 acca on the weekends games which got voided due the hrh death but they didn't credit my fiver back!
next email was saying my account had been suspended, ended up 290 up from a free fiver bet ;-)