OT Sorry and I know some will disagree, but...

OK so you have "seen" plenty of views and viable options. Please enlighten me as to what they are. The technology may exist (somehow I doubt science has come up with a solution for every issue caused by fossil fuels) but is nowhere near capable of being available in the timeframe protesters are talking about.. i.e. now. judging by your posts on this and many other threads you just come across as an angry protester against the status quo without having a clue how to actually bring those changes about. Like I said, protesting is easy. Doing so in a way taht brings about material changes is something else. You remind me of 'Wolfie' from 'Citizen Smith' many years ago.
I suppose we could all abandon current transport and go back to the horse and cart but then the animal rights people would kick off. We could all abandon man made fibres for clothing but abolishing petro chemical would leave a shortfalkl until plant based manufactured plastics get up to speed. We could all start wearing furs, sheepskins and animal skins to keep warm... Oh hang on! Damn those pesky animal right activists again. There is NO simple solution. Everything is connected and the World has become (over) complicated. Ultimately a reset will happen. Earth is safe but it is the human race that will die out and with it many other species. Extinction of species though has happened countless times throughout the millenia and will continue to do so. Nature will always win out. Relying on scienceto bale us out is a fools errand.

 

There’s loads of alternatives Wind energy , Wave energy , I’ll even go as far as nuclear if it’s handled properly .
There’s Solar energy all these things and more, which are not exploited because of the Oil and gas lobby’s .
MOST of our energy is wasted away and the fact that this is being dismissed is because of a few thing besides the fossil fuel lobby but there’s nimbyism , etc etc loads and loads of reasons why they tell us it can’t be done but yet it’s working where it’s in place .
I’m really not like Wolfie tbh but I feel the debate is directed towards the three monkeys at times .

 

What a bizarre attitude to adopt.

 

You are talking solely about energy. What about the plastics etc Wind and waves dont power cars and infrastructure to replace all ICE is decades away ( e.g. farm equipment like combines)

 

Not really. No more bizarre than relying on science for a quick fix for everything.

 

Wind and waves do power cars ! We are supposed to be working towards ECs aren’t we ? It’s just there’s not as much money to be made out of it just yet as regards gas and oil .
Something was done about plastics when enough noise and PROTESTS was made about it , we now have lots more recyclable plastics and dissolvable plastics now and we’re moving well away from one use .
All these things you’ve come up with as we can’t do is we can do if enough pressure is put on the powers that be ( and profit can be found) .
The Technology is there it’s just not being exploited because the monetary value won’t be replaced as yet anyway .

 

"We'll go extinct eventually so let's not even try to prolong the species' existence?"

 

I won’t argue with you . Those on the bridge should be shot with a tranquilliser like they do with monkeys . Without the sheet to catch ‘em !
All these protesters are usually middle class w&ankers or stupid old folk . Those the other day throwing milk everywhere and the tosspot who threw paint at the Van Gogh work or the car garage, should be put in prison with all the Pedos and murderers .
In fact lobotomy should be introduced for these retards.

 

Animals have become extinct over history but not at the rate they are now.

 

I'd be more inclined to go along with what a protestor who claims to deeply concerned about environment had to say if he hadn't flown across the world from new zealand simply because he'd prefer to live here and if he wasn't using a smart phone with a huge carbon footprint. The word hypocrite comes to mind.

If he cared THAT much about the environment he would have lived a carbon neutral lifestyle in new zealand rather than jump on a gas guzzling jumbo jet to fly to a country that allowed him to earn more money in his job.

I'd also be a lot more inclined to go along with it if their protests weren't themselves constantly causing more and more emissions and damage to the planet.

Causing cars to sit idling causes emissions. Throwing paint everywhere causes a motor vehicle to have to come out to clean it up. Smashing windows means that new windows must now be made to replace them. All of this does further damage to the planet.

They could protest at parliament. They could protest outside the homes of the decision makers. But no, they choose to protest and disrupt innocent peoples lives in ways that almost seem designed to harm the planet. It's absolute bonkers. In a lot of cases I genuinely believe that it's more about their ego and their craving for people to notice them personally than it is about the cause they claim to support. Just look at the insulate britain idiots who admitted they themselves hadn't bothered to insulate their own homes. Got their smarmy faces on TV though so they were happy

 

Sounds like my first lads holiday

 

They are just attention seeking ar$ewipes !

 

Ar$ewipes are useful, these aren't!

 

Not what I said. For a legal pro you don't half jump to conclusions and read things into comments that are not there . Striving for solutions is never pointless but man is arrogant to think he can take on nature and always win.

 

They could well be dead, killed in wars against the population of the equatorial regions fleeing to cooler areas in an effort to save theirs and their families lives, and making today’s channel crossing problems seem like a bun fight.
There’ll be no ambulances and fire appliances to block, no hospitals to go to, everybody will be too busy fighting for their lives or for the last gallon of drinking water. And this could be the future we’re forcing on our kids and grandkids. “What did you do to stop global warming grandad?”
“I complained about traffic jams.” Sounds
smashing don’t it.

 

No **** Sherlock. Who would have though it! ECs are NOT the answer long term. We will have exhausted the supply of precious metals long before we have enough EVs (note EV not EC) to replace ICe vehicles. You keep banging on about profits being the barrier. If the idea of replacing All carbon energy sources with Zero emission fuels in teh current proposed timeframe was realistic the money would follow it as sure as night follows day the potemntial for profit would be huge. Besides scrapping all the vehicles on teh road in eth World to replace with EVs would be hugely damaging to the environment. People raging against the throwaway consumer society and then want to scrap perfectly serviceable cars. Even very pro EV motorjournalists advise against replacing a perfectly serviceable car say 4 5 or 6 Category with an EV.

 

No **** Sherlock ? you’re the one said it didn’t power cars .
I’m not BANGING on about nothing, just regurgitating what’s already out there , it’s obvious you don’t know what you’ve posted earlier , I’ll park it here .