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  1. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    You would think but blatant fouls are ignored while offside are given for a couple of millimetres. It's hard to believe it's so poorly run, we all would expect teething problems but its just not improving at all.
     
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    On the plus side, I made a pot of tea and replied to a couple of emails whilst it was being reviewed...
     
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    I've said it before - the way to do it is with chips in the ball and players' boots. That way you can have almost instant decisions with no ambiguity or room for human error.
     
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    Getting worse I'd say.
     
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    I sort of get what you're saying there but given that the speed of light is 671 million mph (used by the linesman to judge players' relative positions with respect to an imaginary line on the pitch) and the speed of sound is only 760 mph (often used by the linesman to judge when a ball is played - typically out of the linesman's sight), I'd say there's sufficient margin of error which would bring it into the realm of an individual's interpretation. And I've not even allowed for the relativistic effects of several moving bodies all existing in their own space-time continuums.
     
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    I don't think the speed of light is relevant to the issue, it's just the delay due to sound being non-instant. I crunched the numbers and, assuming the following:
    • The match is being played on a pitch with maximum permitted dimensions
    • The linesman keeps up with the last defender at all times
    • Where the ball is in a team's half the last defender on the opposing side is unlikely to be deeper than his own 18 yard line
    The longest possible pass for which a linesman might have to make an offside decision is 113m. So if he were going by sound alone, that would be a delay of a third of a second in him realising the ball has been played, which is pretty significant.
     
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    Fair point, but according to Heisenberg's uncertainty principal, it's impossible to know the exact position of a particle and it's momentum. Thus it's impossible to know if there's a player (or cat) in the box at any given time. Of course the probability depends on a player's role in the team, normally the goalkeeper's chances of being in the opposing box is vanishingly small. And the probability of Bruce Dyer being offside is tending to unity.
     
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    If anyone not seen this vAR moment it’s worth a watch ..1:30 onwards

     
  9. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I particularly liked the forward clearing it off the line at the end :)
     
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    It took so long yo review i got down 4 squared metres of paving!
     
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    No,the way to solve it is scrap it and stop scrutinising every incident in slow motion.Let refs referee because now since var they are terrified of making the wrong decision.
     
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    It used to be the whole of the body
     

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