Levelling up, Barnsley..

Our economy is shrinking the most of G7 countries at the moment and more than our EU neighbours.

Our economy was 90% the size of Germany's at the time of the Brexit vote, a country who have been hit worse by the Ukraine war. Currently it's 70% of the size.

You can disagree all you want, but you're wrong.

 

You can disagree all you like, but nothing makes your opinion more valid than anyone elses.

 

Nothing to do with Brexit. Money was there but it has been a political choice through Internal policies from the current governing party which can be addressed via the ballot box.

 

He hasn't posted an opinion. He's posted facts.

 

He's given you fact there mate, not opinions. Your response should have been to explain why the facts have not been as a result of Brexit. My opinion is that the facts can only be explained as being a direct result of Brexit, an opinion supported by pretty well all economists including the governor of The Bank of England.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-britain-economic-recovery-says-bank-governor

You can't justify being wrong and continue to be wrong by simply asserting your right to an opinion.

Edit. Sorry I just remembered, Michael Gove told us all not to listen to experts....

 

But fact based upon an economy post pandemic and in worldwide supply chain issues.

I'm not claiming that the trade is anywhere near level yet but it is something that can be built upon.

I'd rather be poorer than be so politically entwined into the EU machine.

We have got to get away from being obsessed by growth as the main trigger for how happy we all should be. Growth without improvements to infrastructure just stretches the country to the limit. Whoever is in government needs to find the best balance.

Look at the NHS now even though it's one of the areas where funding has increased since 2010, it has been poorly managed and the amount is simply not enough.

I sat in A&E at the start of the week for over 3 hours, only for a nurse to come out and announce it would be a minimum of 8 hours before we were seen because they couldn't free up cubicles. It was an absolute joke of a service, ended up walking out and going home worried. Mot just cuts to services, their procedures seemed very poor as well. For instance is they just expanded their triage they could move people on. I was assesed by that doc who is on the TV up there and he said he was now not allowed to do any basic treatment which would reduce the people waiting, he was a doctor and was only allowed to take BP and Sats. No fault of the staff, a mixture of funding and crap procedures.

 

Some more facts to repudiate your opinion.

https://www.nhsconfed.org/articles/... creation, NHS spending,1.4 per cent per year.

 

It's very naive to suggest that Brexit is not THE contributory factor to the economic deficit (remember how much this farce cost in the first place.) The other G7 states are showing sustained growth following a global pandemic & Putin's war on Ukraine, while UK is in the negative.
You don't have to be a genius to work that one out..

 

in my experience as an A&E nurse, people who walk out without waiting to be seen almost always shouldn’t have been there in the first place. The delays in A&E are usually down to two reasons:

- not being able to free up space, because there are no beds in the hospital. The main reason for beds being blocked is the lack of social care/care in the community to be able to discharge the elderly/those needing additional help. The main reasons for that are chronic underfunding by the Tory government and staffing issues post-Brexit
- people being there who shouldn’t be there. It’s an Accident and Emergency department, so is aimed at treating people who have had an accident that requires immediate treatment/monitoring, or a medical emergency needing urgent or life saving intervention. It’s a safe bet to say you could walk into an A&E department with an 8 hour wait and identify at least 25%, and usually a lot more, of the patients waiting who just should not be there.

I say this as someone who recently sat in a chair in A&E for 9 hours waiting to be seen myself. I too nearly went home, but that’s because sitting in the chair with no neck/head support was making my long-term neck/head pain worse than the stomach pain I had gone in with, and it was agony. I kept asking when they called me through to re-check my obs, but they had nowhere else to seat me. I couldn’t have gone home if I’d wanted to though, because I couldn’t walk more than a couple of yards without the most horrendous stomach pain. Instead, I had my daughter fetch in my usual night time medication, which took the edge off my neck pain until I was seen. Anticipating a lengthy wait, I’d taken my iPad with me and read several of the magazines that I’d downloaded from Readly. Had I gone home it might have been the last decision I made, as I was diagnosed with cholecystitis and a pretty nasty infection in my tummy, so I spent a week in the place on Iv antibiotics. Another night untreated would probably have led to sepsis, which on top of my neuro and other issues, could have had a very nasty outcome.

But I sat patiently through the pain, read my magazines and thanked the hard working staff for their help, whilst looking forward to seeing the back of this government in two years time and hoping Labour can sort out the mess that Brexit has left us in.

 

Yes, that’s the staffing issues due to Brexit I mentioned. But I can think of one benefit of Brexit. We no longer have the boozy, nicotine-stained man-frog on the TV every 5 minutes.

 

And a number of those who are sat waiting in an A&E department are there because they went to see a GP, but there were no appointments and so were directed to A&E by their local surgery.

 

Funding may have been increased but the NHS has been forced to outsource more and more services so that extra funding has simply been funnelled into companies' profits and not spent on making the service better. This hasn't been a result of Brexit but deliberate policy by the same people that convinced people like you that the EU is an evil empire (I know it's not perfect but our government is far worse). They want the NHS to fail so they can privatise it, resulting in a system like they have in the US. Watch the video please.



I've seen a similar video of US people trying to guess UK NHS charges, they were equally gobsmacked.

 

When I worked in Brighton A&E and we had patients coming in saying that, we were allowed to call the GP surgery, give them a bollocking and send the patient straight back with an instruction to ensure they are seen. Not one surgery every refused. The first time I did it once I moved to a London A&E it was me that got the bollocking. It seems that with GP surgeries reliant upon the hospital in Brighton, there being no big hospital for miles around, you could get away with being bolshy. In London, with loads of hospitals courting referrals from GP practices, with there being alternative hospitals close by, we couldn’t afford to upset them. Quite often though, the patients were attending with something they had had for weeks, so they could have waited the extra day or two for the GP appointment they had been offered.

Sometimes people need to be a bit firmer with their GP receptionists. I know how difficult that can be though, as the new practice I am under is awful (Victoria Medical Centre in town, in case they are reading). The staff on reception are like Arsenal’s defence under George Graham. The problem is, they are not medically trained, so just don’t understand when someone with knowledge of their condition is trying to explain why it’s urgent they get to speak with a doctor. They just firmly adhere to the instructions they are given, which are seemingly designed with the intention of turning people away. It doesn’t help when the Practice Manager refuses to come out and speak to you, saying any correspondence has to be put in writing. Been waiting a couple of months for a response to my very reasonable written complaint. The doctors themselves are just not aware of what their patients are needing, because the patients aren’t allowed to tell them. I eventually got it sorted by making a fuss and being very persistent. The urgency was all due to a mistake their doctor made in the first place!!

The practice has now reverted to the old style system of telling everybody who wants to have an urgent appointment to turn up between 9 and 9:30 or 1 and 1:30 and wait in the queue. I can still remember sitting in the practice in Dodworth in the 70s, moving up a seat every time someone went in to be seen. This, of course, poses other problems, but at least it ensures that you are guaranteed to get seen, if you turn up on time. There should therefore be no reason that a patient of the practice rocks up to A&E saying they couldn’t get an appointment with their GP.

 

This from the article...
"Brexit has also deepened Barnsley’s pain. Had the UK remained in the EU, South Yorkshire would have received £900m in assistance, a sum the government pledged to honour. Analysis by Jarvis indicates just £38m has been received."

 

Of course, Brexit is going to speed up the demise of the NHS in many ways, not least if we ever try to get a trade deal with the US. The health lobby over there just won’t let the States begin to negotiate with us unless it is written in to the agreement that they are allowed even more access to the NHS services. At that point we can wave bye bye to the NHS. A far cry from the £350m per week the NHS was apparently going to get isn’t it.

 

Unfortunately with our surgery, and there's only one in town so its not like you have a choice, if you try to express an opinion that the receptionist disagrees with u are told you're being aggressive and banned.

My Mrs had a fall, 2 days later still wasn't right, couldnt get in at the docs, told to go A&E, ended up there for 9 hours, CT scan to check for bleed on brain, which thankfully was clear, but diagnosed with concussion. Who appointed a receptionist qualified to make that call?

Its ridiculous, I just don't understand why GP surgeries are the only place allowed to remain as if we are in mid pandemic. No wonder its recently been audited as not fit for purpose.

 

Tbf, dentists have got visibly worse during the last two years too. Truly awful now and no interest in NHS patients as it isn’t worth their while financially. Soon we’ll all be private in order to get our teeth sorted and then it’s job done…