Sheff Weds .... well BFC, you've royally fcked it up again.

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  1. Marc

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    not sure I agree with this analogy. seems extreme to make a decision on a kick off time, based on whether or not someone might die. it's a game of football. surely the starting assumption has to be that no one will die, regardless of the kick off time?

    the incident with the police officer last season, if that's what is perhaps being referred to here, had nothing to do with the club, and not even directly related to events on the day. it was an incident completely away from the club, where totally unjustifiable force was used by the police. as tragic as the consequences ultimately were, I'm afraid the only person to blame for that horribly unnecessary incident, was an SYP police officer.
     
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    My post was not related in anyway to the incident you referenced
     
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    Tbf mate. I reckon most of us thought that. Given the quote. Was a strange thing to say otherwise.
     
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    I was going to post a reply ri that list but I thought I would be strung up. Football fans had nothing to do with his death . He simply battered someone for no other reason other than his own aggressiveness.
     
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    I can’t see why. SYP want to switch the game in order (in their view) to reduce any likelihood of clashes between the two sets of supporters. Now I don’t know whether the club can overrule this or not, but supposing they can and did and a serious incident then arose from fans clashing it is my view that the police would be looking to lay the blame at the clubs door. A ‘serious incident’ might involve a loss of life it might not. Irrespective it would not reflect well on the club
     
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    I reckon it’s cos Sunderland are at Rotherham on the Sat too. They usually take big numbers and will stop fans meeting at train stations on the way.
     
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    Yes very likely.
     
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    They will charge extra money,for more bodies to police it,
     
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    That's why we will never fill our away end, if syp are charging close to what we are for the extra couple of thousand away fans,plus fines,if ought happens,not worth risk financially,anybody know who is responsible for charging,is it syp,or barnsley council who call the shots,a couple of extra thousand fans in are town centre,if policed in the correct manner,closer together,a lot of businesses would benefit.
     
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    Why is it more dangerous to play the game on a Saturday at 3 than it is on a Sunday at 1? I'm not trying to be difficult, I genuinely don't know. And if playing games at 3 on a Saturday is likely to lead to people dying, surely we should stop playing all games at that time.

    On a slightly different note, many of our local derbies against bigger clubs are moved in terms of time and date when we play at home. They have been for years. I'd be interested to read the full explanation as to why. It may stop people feeling so frustrated if they understood the reason for it. The article on the official website about this fixture change is the same as all previous announcements: lengthy discussions have taken place and it's been moved due to 'safety'. That doesn't really say anything at all. If it's our safety that is the concern then shouldn't we also be offered advice on how to stay safe and be informed how the change will make us safer. How can we be safer if they don't communicate what the danger is.
     
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    I'll stand corrected. But i believe the club does not have to pay for policing outside the stadium. That comes out of the public purse.
    Less police on the streets afore the game because of less fans coming into town. I'd have thought by changing the fixture.
     
    Hooky feller, Dec 29, 2022
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    Booze. Sat 3pm, for the majority, is 2hrs more drinking time and they're not at work tomorrow so can afford to get smashed. Look at our away fans for this.

    Sun 1pm, you've got to control yourself a little more due to external circumstances. Ergo, less likely to be mouthy/up for a scrap.
     
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    As bbbfc say’s I think drink is the motivation for switching the match to Sunday 1.0 pm. Someone being killed is of course the very worst outcome of what might result from clashes between rivals groups of supporters.
    I suggested earlier that it would have far better to have identified and rearranged this match as soon as the fixtures came out and avoided much of the ill feeling that the late switch has created. Even better would be to program the computer accordingly to avoid such scheduling in the first place.
     
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    A usually quiet Sunday morning / afternoon in town will now be busier, same for public transport with less impact on the usual Saturday shoppers. Businesses bringing in more money in on a Sunday than usual.

    2 hours less drinking time has to help slow the idiots down a little, roads generally quieter, time to watch youngens Sunday morning match then straight to Oakwell, pint at ground home for dinner with lots of time left in the day. No rushing due to Saturday working. Sounds great to me I know its not the same for everyone.
     
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    Correct
     
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    So the reason is to maximise ticket sales then ?
    Well it’s four tickets they’ve lost because I cannot go now !!
     
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    Fixture could be changed again depending on 3rd round fa cup results
     
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