Jordan Williams..

I'd love to know how you know this. It's always undisclosed when I look. The only player I can think of who we should probably have gotten more for is Morris in recent times? And that's probably due to the player wanting out too. We got about a million+ for Brittain, I would have snatched their hands off.

 

Whatever the merits or drawbacks of a Williams transfer (which seems a bit far-fetched anyway based on the 'evidence' to date) the thing that strikes me about this thread is that in the space of a few short hours more posts have been generated on one 'outgoing' rumour than have in 9-10 days on the token 'incoming' rumours thread.

It saddens me a little as to how we (and even the local media) seem to have been subconsciously 'programmed' by the modus operandi of recent ownerships to accept that non-sale of better players is about the best that can happen in a transfer window. I simply don't see that in the vast majority of other clubs, where most seem to retain at least a modicum of optimism and the rumours of incomings and hope for improvements seem the main focus.

 

This got said time and time again last season, but I honestly don't think he was. He was occasionally caught out of position which led to a goal, which was often his only error in a game, but it often went unnoticed how many opposition attacks, or crosses into the box he'd completed before said error. He was one of our most consistent performers last season (not hard I know), and he was certainly our most consistent performer under Struber the season before, albeit we weren't winning games and then Williams got injured. He's still only 23, and I think deployed in the right position, with the right cover behind him, he could easily be a solid championship player.

 

Spineless, maybe a bit o,t,t, and not the reight phrase, lets see whats brought in an what leaves,

 

I used to think this too mate. But I promise youre mistaken, majority of clubs are as pessimistic as us. Soon as you do a deep dive into them you'll realise. Wednesday for instance wanted rid of Moore again 3 weeks ago. Derby fans wanted rid of Warne after 2 games... no that isn't a joke! The rumour mill of player outgoings is vast amongst all fans of all clubs in the lower leagues. Jusr something we have to put up with unfortunately when you support clubs of our stature

 

Cant argue with that mate. I'm choosing a clean slate for the board, as they've asked, because otherwise, after last season, I'm not sure I could bare watching the lads with how crap it was making me feel every week. I need to believe it and be optimistic. I dont expect miracles but I do expect honesty, heart and the knowing that these people urge barnsley to do well

 

Imho he is a very important player for us at the moment. His pace is his main asset and it gets him and the team out of a million sins.
Positionally he is poor and another player who seems to struggle reading the game, gets caught out and incapable of a five yard pass....he's not a footballer.
We struggled without him, when he was out and we look much better with him in the team.
As you say we have had much better and worse.

 

He gets caught out because he's often trying to do the jobs of 2 or even 3 players at times.

 

I often thought his strongest position was in a back 3, but I think his game has come along a lot since then, and now he's best deployed as an attacking wing back. So why don't we play to his strengths and have someone behind him who masks his weaknesses. His biggest inability as you say is his positioning and arguably his short range passing, have someone on the right of the back 3 who can do the spade work so Williams has licence to go and do what he does best. With Edwards, I felt we finally had that. Losing him to injury is as big a blow than losing Williams at the minute for me. They complement each other in a way that other centre halves in that position have accentuated Williams' flaws (Sibbick's positioning and Solbauer's lack of pace for example). I'm Williams' biggest fan, so I'm probably over exaggerating slighly, but we've looked a much poorer side this season without him. Get the right players around him, and give him licence to get forward, we'll start scoring goals.

 

My apologies, I misunderstood your post.

 

I know you can't judge a player on one appearance but he was absolutely gash against Bolton the other week, and I mean Tom Kennedy full back standard. He doesn't pull any trees up for me over the last few years, one of the most replaceable players in the team.

 

Doesn't even have to be a half decent bid and we'll fold.