You might want to run your post through a dictionary. I’m sorry if it offends you that some people point out you’re an ignoramus.
Well we don’t know what was said, but it appears from what we know the young girl was quite brazen, and I was under the impression ’grooming’ was about deception.
Not necessarily. Obviously depends on what went off, hopefully Wakeyred is able to have a frank discussion with his son.
Are you trying to blame the OP here for their son’s friend’s parents’ friends’ behaviour? ‘Letting’ him go to a mate’s house with another friend? He’s 15, not 5. It’s unacceptable behaviour whether the son wants to make an issue of it or not but as the OP was called by the son to pick him and his mate up because of the situation,rather than them staying the night as originally planned, then it would seem as if the son does indeed want to.
Really? Care to point out the spelling, punctuation or grammatical errors in it? And as for your view that I'm missing nuance or subtlety in the post, someone has made sexual advances towards the OP's son; a minor. Have a word with yourself and have a think about how you'd feel if it was your child.
Having had the ups and downs of bringing up my own children I would never in these circumstances blame the OP and if I gave you that impression I apologise.
Could you explain what you mean by "The police may well question who was responsible for letting the 15 year old go to the (unchecked?) house in the first place." then? And don't say "it was just a hypothetical statement" or some ******** because you were clearly implying that the parents should have not let him go.
I've never understood the point behind the "it's not technically paedophilia" argument, as though it makes any difference.
1. Wakeyred, that’s horrendous. I’ve got a 15 year old boy. If it had happened to him I shudder to think how I’d have reacted and dealt with it. Getting him out of there and not retaliating there and then is of course the right thing to have done. I concur with those that have said to report this - to a point. Just speak to your boy first; it could end up doing him more harm. If he just wants to leave it I’d be inclined to respect that, it could make life difficult with his mates etc. I’m not condoning her behaviour or that of any of the other women involved but his welfare is first priority in this - if he isn’t comfortable reporting it, maybe just speak to him and make sure he’s ok. 2. The ones who have chosen this thread to have a petty squabble with eachother, give your heads a wobble. Really not the place. The op is about a child receiving unwanted and inappropriate sexual advances.
I'm not saying it makes a difference - just pointing out the fact that the bloke who constantly misunderstands everything still has his 100% record. Actually - as a dad and grandad I'd say there absolutely is a difference between someone who rapes babies and a 16 yr old having sex with her 15 yr old boyfriend. 50% > of people who jump into 'paedophile' every time teenagers having sex is mentioned are casually ignoring their own teenage years. Don't get me wrong; the 'idea' of my daughters having sex before 30 is abhorrent - but that's just paternal nonsense I realise I need to keep in check.
And here, in a nutshell, is why the OP is concerned about the normalisation of the actions described.
The op wasn't talking about a 16 year old and a 15 year old. He was talking about a 23 year old WOMAN preying on a 15 year old child to the point that they child asked to be taken home. If you think that's ok then god help you
Nothing in my post suggests 'normalising'. I appreciate it might be a few years before you finally lose your virginity - and in that case, I think you should leave nuance to the adults.
Where have I suggested it's OK? here's the opening of my first post (before baiting the idiot) and here's my second post:
Hang on Mr nuance. You are jumping on, belittling and trying to mock him for calling this woman a paedophile and saying he doesn't know the nuances of a paedophile so let's jump into a few facts here shall we. The victim in question here is 15. The accused is an adult. Not a 16 year old but a fully grown adult. According to you that isn't paedophilic because of Nuance's. I remember back in April when Imran khan was convicted of groping a 15 year old boy and you called him a paedophile. I wonder what the different nuances were.
B.R. 1) the police would want to ascertain if the minor was there of his own volition or coerced or forced there and to do that would ask the question how the boy got there. 2) you have sadly put your own (wrong) interpretation in suggesting i am implying the parents should not have let him go. I am not! (I am not in a superior position to ask you to 'explain' yourself and to ask you not to resort to '********')
Having read through this thread again i too find you patronising. Also swap the sexes of the adult and the minor and would you still think the same?