Madeline Mccann...

I can honestly say this thread has some of the most disappointing comments I've seen on this forum. Couple of points
1. None of you know the merits or otherwise of why German and Portuguese police commited substantial resources to the search. The mere fact they did would indicate some merit to their actions.
2. The mccans probably thought they were doing there best as parents sticking to a routine. Do I agree with them? No. When I went on holiday I took my 3 year old to bar and endured a few glares but wtf. She's my daughter and I'll play it my own way. Who knows who is right or wrong as a parent.
The fact they don't have their daughter shouldn't be down to their actions solely. I wouldn't let my kids out of my sight but then again I've dealt with peodophiles directly. Have you ever watched the films of lions in Africa stalking the heard? They look for the straggler, the lost one at the edge and then they pounce. Peodophiles are just the same. Fairgrounds, sleep overs in tents etc. They are there. What parent here hasn't lost sight of their kid for a split second. The true debate here lies in whether once convicted (as was this guy in Germany) you let them out again. It takes at least 16 police officers to effectively follow someone for 24 hours. This German ****** skipped jurisdictions. It is a symptom of psychopathy that they move around. All this shows the system favours the psychopath and not poor little Madeline who make no mistake suffered a horrible death. Please remember that in your future postings

 

I think maybe there might be closure for the Needhams. It was a tragic accident ( and how he could have left them in limbo all that time is beyond me) , and surely that has to be less harrowing than most of the scenarios running through their minds all those years?

As to Madeleine, no one knows. The Macanns were quick to shout abduction but it was an unlocked apartment, she could have wandered off looking for them. Kate said Sean had been awake crying for his parents and Maddy asked why they didn't come on another night on that holiday when they'd left them.

 

I think they were wrong to let the media speculate it was to do with Madeline McCann when there still isn't sufficient evidence.

 

There’s something gross in the way people talk about this case. It seems to have passed into some internet realm where people feel like it’s something to have a strong opinion on.

Her parents obviously messed up, and I’m sure nobody regrets it more than them. What’s the point of slating them for it, 15 years later? Or criticising efforts to get to the bottom of what happened?

 

I really don't get why people bash the McCanns, they made a poor decision on holiday which basically ruined their lives. Many people make similar poor decisions and get away with it. On the other hand we get couples like those sent down yesterday for life for killing their baby boy - they deserve a bit of bashing....

 

Sorry but doing it night after night, a considerable distance away from your young children whilst in a foreign country is not just a poor decision, it is outright neglect.

If it had been a working class family from around here they wouldn't have had half the sympathy, resources and coverage. Look at Ben Needham as a case in point.

 

Who said she's dead, ive not read anywhere that they've found a body, until they do, shes still missing, and for all her family and friends Alive

 

Good point.

 

Well said....in my opinion.

 

I have to confess to knowing little of the details of the McCann's case to be fair and yes, a working class family from Barnsley would have been treated differently by the media. However, the bad treatment of one family (real or hypothetical) does not justify bad treatment of another. The media are at fault in the way they treat different people from different backgrounds and should be condemned for it, not the perceived victims of their coverage.

From a personal perspective, I can honestly say that I never left my kids on their own till the eldest was 14, and then it was only in our house for the (very) occasional night out, never when on holiday. The McCanns have learnt in the hardest way possible.

 

Did they really need to "learn" it was a shockingly bad idea and was neglect? I have sympathy for what they have been through but it doesn't take hindsight to know it was neglect.
Whatever they have suffered is nothing compared to the likely fate Madeline suffered as a result of that neglect.
It wasn't taking your eyes off the kids for a minute while you're out at the beach. It was wilful neglect. They're criminals in my eyes.

 

I don't think it's bad treatment. I think people have been saying that the McCann's should have received the correct treatment.

They didn't leave her in an hotel room, it was a self contained apartment with its own unlocked door right next to the road, they left the kids alone there night after night.

They were offered a babysitter but said no, they'd prefer to leave toddlers alone in a (deliberately) unlocked apartment than with a childminder.

Both parents deny it but the grandparents of Maddie have admitted that it was usual for the McCann's to sedate their children in order to get them to sleep. This is backed up by the fact that their other two children slept through the supposed abduction, the entire intense police search and then continued to sleep as they were moved to another room.
Kate, a qualified anaesthetist, waited a long time, until she surely knew any substances would be out of their systems before then suggesting the twins were tested for any sedatives.

Kate McCann claimed that she knew Maddie had been abducted because 'cuddle cat', Maddie's toy, had been moved to a shelf which Maddie couldn't possibly have reached meaning it had to be an adult who took it. I seem to recall that there was no such shelf. Oh and Kate in a different interview stated that the toy was on the bed, completely different to why she was certain Maddie had been abducted.
Kate then bizarrely washed the cat. Destroying any evidence on it and removing her daughter's scent which is the opposite behaviour to what police usually expect

Cadaver dogs found evidence of blood in the wardrobe of the room and behind the sofa. They also identified the scent of a body in the boot of the care hired by the McCann's.

While the police search was going on, the McCann's were continuing their holiday on the beach.

The McCann's completely refused to answer questions from the police.


Regardless of whether they were actively involved with her disappearance or demise, it's a matter of fact that their actions contributed to it and their actions after the event harmed the investigation.

The question is why?

 

Aye, & the moon landings were faked as well

 

A bizarre response. Which bit of my post was incorrect?

 

I'm not sure how much of this is hard fact and how much is wild speculation to be honest. If some of the stuff you say is hard fact then I'm sure the McCanns would have been arrested on suspicion of murder at some point.

 

As an ex-paediatric A&E. nurse I was quite appalled at the McCann’s lack of care for their children, leaving them like they did, but my ex said “come on, we’d have done it”. And therein lies the difference between us, because no we bloody well wouldn’t.

And I had to turn the news off last night when they were running the story about the parents of that poor little Finley, cos it was so upsetting. I’m a sucker for babies anyway (any new parents should cherish the time you spent with your kids when they are little, because those are really the best days of your lives), but I just wanted to reach into the TV and take the little one off them. He was a beautiful little baby and that video of him chuckling away was heartbreaking (there’s no better sound that little ones laughing or singing). How could you hurt a baby? Actually, I know the answer to that, cos I did post registration courses on child abuse and neglect (those weren’t any fun), but it still beggars belief. It’s just so heartbreaking, cos I know people who can’t have children who would be wonderful parents and would have cherished Finley. What on Earth were social services thinking and why was nobody looking out for him? It’s so sad.

 

There are a lot of discrepancies But at least one person knows the truth and usually the truth will out.

 

They were.

 

Only my opinion but for me the only thing they’re guilty of is absolute stupidity that they’ll be paying for for the rest of their lives.

 

There was a documentary on Tv not too long ago about the police’s main suspect Christian Brueckner, it’s definitely worth a watch if you haven’t seen it.